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To: Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>, Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New up-rated 100/4 water pumps
From: Michael MacLean <springer.mike51@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2023 18:41:00 -0800
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You want Kent Lambert in Oregon.(541) 490-5674 cell, (541) 386-2310
Mike MacLean

On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 6:17 PM Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I can't now recall the person's name but in addition to selling rebuilt
> pumps (on a core basis) with better seals he also sold hardtop parts
> (windlacing, etc).  He was located in the NW--Washington or Oregon.
> Does anyone know his name--Bob or Bill ring a bell.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 8:09 PM Ricchardd Mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Bob & Steven,
>>
>> Thanks for the input.  It looks like  Moss and Brit Part Northwest are
>> both selling the same Bastuck water pump.  Even with its issues, I guess
>> I=E2=80=99ll be buying it.  Anything is better than County.
>>
>>
>> Richard Mayor
>> boyracer466@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 7, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Just went through this ordeal. As you know, there isn't much choice fo=
r
>> 100 pumps from the 'usual suspects;' it's either County or 'uprated.'
>> 'Uprated' is a brand called 'Bastuck;' I believe they're a German compan=
y.
>> They do appear to have a somewhat better-designed impeller and compared =
to
>> County they turn smoother (you probably know I'm not a big fan of County=
).
>> Though otherwise a decent pump, the Bastucks have two issues:
>> >
>> > 1) The thread for the heater return line--it's probably metric--will
>> not fit the 100s nifty brass valve; you're stuck using the barbed nipple
>> that comes with the pump. Disappointing since I've tried to keep my 100M
>> original as much as possible and I have a lovely, original brass valve I
>> can't use.
>> >
>> > 2) The pump body has a threaded plug; for god-knows-what reason the
>> threads are extremely loose and all but impossible to seal up. I tried t=
he
>> usual teflon tape, red threadlocker, 'normal' pipe sealant and JB Weld a=
nd
>> none would seal even without being under pressure (the threads are reall=
y
>> rough). I ended up brazing the plug on one pump, but feared I might have
>> damaged the seal due to the heat required (oxy/acetylene) to heat the ca=
st
>> iron. In desperation, I bought a County pump but the bearings felt a bit
>> rough. I got a tip from another Lister and sprung for a new Bastuck pump=
;
>> the lister pointed me to this (apparently) new product from Permatex (NF=
I):
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.acehardware.com/departments/automotive-rv-and-marine/auto-to=
ols-and-maintenance/automotive-adhesives/8008863?store=3D18108&gclid=3DCj0K=
CQiAzeSdBhC4ARIsACj36uFxSKbyc_YqZGVj2GT45zIVvOr1cj-EUgn2PEmMOG3lBFpIIcC08bM=
aAv21EALw_wcB&gclsrc=3Daw.ds
>> >
>> > This stuff worked a treat, but be sure to follow the instructions re:
>> cleaning and let this stuff cure for 72 hrs.
>> >
>> > I've seen 'OEM/rebuilt' on eBay but can't vouch for them (they
>> apparently have an older type seal). Tom Monaco knows someone he trusts =
who
>> rebuilds them, but the guy's backlogged and Tom hasn't remembered to let=
 me
>> know when he gets some done (I've already pestered him a couple times). =
Any
>> rebuilt OEM is liable to run $400 or more. Oh, and last I checked the
>> Bastuck were sold out; BNP had some but apparently they took them off th=
e
>> shelf (possibly because of the issue with the sloppy plug).
>> >
>> > Wanna buy my new, in-the-box County pump? FWIW, the County pump I
>> received has a similar barbed nipple for the return line and it appears =
to
>> be epoxied in.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> > On 1/7/2023 1:13 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:
>> >> Anyone have any experience with the "uprated" BN1-BN2 water pumps
>> being sold by Moss? I can see in the pictures that there is a brand
>> name......and it's not County.
>> >>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>You want Kent Lambert in Oregon.(541) 490-5674 cell, =
(541) 386-2310</div><div>Mike MacLean<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 6:17 =
PM Michael Oritt &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.ori=
tt@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddin=
g-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rg=
b(51,51,255)">I can&#39;t now recall the person&#39;s name but in addition =
to selling rebuilt pumps (on a core basis) with better seals he also sold h=
ardtop parts (windlacing, etc).=C2=A0 He was located in the NW--Washington =
or Oregon.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
>Does anyone know his name--Bob or Bill ring a bell.</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael Oritt</div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan =
7, 2023 at 8:09 PM Ricchardd Mayor &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1=
px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Bob &amp; Steven,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the input.=C2=A0 It looks like=C2=A0 Moss and Brit Part Northwes=
t are both selling the same Bastuck water pump.=C2=A0 Even with its issues,=
 I guess I=E2=80=99ll be buying it.=C2=A0 Anything is better than County. <=
br>
<br>
<br>
Richard Mayor<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmai=
l.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
&gt; On Jan 7, 2023, at 3:40 PM, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Just went through this ordeal. As you know, there isn&#39;t much choic=
e for 100 pumps from the &#39;usual suspects;&#39; it&#39;s either County o=
r &#39;uprated.&#39; &#39;Uprated&#39; is a brand called &#39;Bastuck;&#39;=
 I believe they&#39;re a German company. They do appear to have a somewhat =
better-designed impeller and compared to County they turn smoother (you pro=
bably know I&#39;m not a big fan of County). Though otherwise a decent pump=
, the Bastucks have two issues:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 1) The thread for the heater return line--it&#39;s probably metric--wi=
ll not fit the 100s nifty brass valve; you&#39;re stuck using the barbed ni=
pple that comes with the pump. Disappointing since I&#39;ve tried to keep m=
y 100M original as much as possible and I have a lovely, original brass val=
ve I can&#39;t use.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 2) The pump body has a threaded plug; for god-knows-what reason the th=
reads are extremely loose and all but impossible to seal up. I tried the us=
ual teflon tape, red threadlocker, &#39;normal&#39; pipe sealant and JB Wel=
d and none would seal even without being under pressure (the threads are re=
ally rough). I ended up brazing the plug on one pump, but feared I might ha=
ve damaged the seal due to the heat required (oxy/acetylene) to heat the ca=
st iron. In desperation, I bought a County pump but the bearings felt a bit=
 rough. I got a tip from another Lister and sprung for a new Bastuck pump; =
the lister pointed me to this (apparently) new product from Permatex (NFI):=
<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.acehardware.com/departments/automotive-rv-and-m=
arine/auto-tools-and-maintenance/automotive-adhesives/8008863?store=3D18108=
&amp;gclid=3DCj0KCQiAzeSdBhC4ARIsACj36uFxSKbyc_YqZGVj2GT45zIVvOr1cj-EUgn2PE=
mMOG3lBFpIIcC08bMaAv21EALw_wcB&amp;gclsrc=3Daw.ds" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://www.acehardware.com/departments/automotive-rv-and-mari=
ne/auto-tools-and-maintenance/automotive-adhesives/8008863?store=3D18108&am=
p;gclid=3DCj0KCQiAzeSdBhC4ARIsACj36uFxSKbyc_YqZGVj2GT45zIVvOr1cj-EUgn2PEmMO=
G3lBFpIIcC08bMaAv21EALw_wcB&amp;gclsrc=3Daw.ds</a><br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; This stuff worked a treat, but be sure to follow the instructions re: =
cleaning and let this stuff cure for 72 hrs.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I&#39;ve seen &#39;OEM/rebuilt&#39; on eBay but can&#39;t vouch for th=
em (they apparently have an older type seal). Tom Monaco knows someone he t=
rusts who rebuilds them, but the guy&#39;s backlogged and Tom hasn&#39;t re=
membered to let me know when he gets some done (I&#39;ve already pestered h=
im a couple times). Any rebuilt OEM is liable to run $400 or more. Oh, and =
last I checked the Bastuck were sold out; BNP had some but apparently they =
took them off the shelf (possibly because of the issue with the sloppy plug=
).<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Wanna buy my new, in-the-box County pump? FWIW, the County pump I rece=
ived has a similar barbed nipple for the return line and it appears to be e=
poxied in.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Bob<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; On 1/7/2023 1:13 PM, Richard Mayor wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Anyone have any experience with the &quot;uprated&quot; BN1-BN2 wa=
ter pumps being sold by Moss? I can see in the pictures that there is a bra=
nd name......and it&#39;s not County.<br>
&gt;&gt; <br>
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