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To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Finish for Aluminum Cockpit Surround
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Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2022 11:19:44 -0800
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There are clear coat sprays you can apply to protect the shine.
I have a couple sets of trim pieces and one is shinny the other dull. I
need to find the best bits and rationalize the finish on them. Most likely
I will polish

On Sun, Nov 6, 2022, 10:25 AM Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net> wrote:

> First let me thank everyone for the tips and suggestions about the
> different finishes for the cockpit mouldings. This is what I have done so
> far.
>
> During the summer, when I could safely work outside, I stripped the
> original anodizing in a bath of sodium hydroxide (also called Lye). This
> method did remove all of the original anodizing and left a dull, clean
> surface.
> Using a file and emery cloth I tried to remove as many of the nicks and
> scratches as I could. The final treatment for nicks and scratches was with
> a 3M sanding sponge and liberal amounts of WD40. This step was very
> effective.
>
> Despite all of the above there were remaining pits, nicks and scratches.
> Polishing wasn't high on my list until I read Ray's post. I tried polishing
> a small area with some Autosol Metal Polish I had lying around which is a
> similar product to Met-All and the results were pretty good so I did both
> surrounds. Picture attached. My total cost to date is about $20 and will
> stick with the polish and see how long the finish lasts.
>
> Harold
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 5:13 AM <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Harold,
>>
>>
>>
>> I never had any success with trying to strip the anodizing chemically.
>> The best way is to have an anodizing company remove it by reverse
>> anodizing. Du-All Anodizing GMP Plating Inc. stripped and anodized my BT7
>> cockpit molding for $115 USD. Wheel Techniques in Santa Clara California
>> polished the pieces for $275. Those are 2013 prices so no doubt the cost
>> will have increased.
>>
>>
>>
>> My moldings were in pretty good shape.
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jean
>> Caron
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 5, 2022 10:37 PM
>> *To:* Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>; Healey List <
>> healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Finish for Aluminum Cockpit Surround
>>
>>
>>
>> Harold,
>>
>> First of all you indicate that the original anodizing has been stripped,
>> how was this done? Was it done chemically? If it was simply sanded there
>> would still be remnant of the anodizing in the aluminium.
>>
>> As someone else said re anodizing would very likely be the best solution,
>> but it is expensive, or was. The place in Ontario that used to do it, has
>> closed down and they did a fantastic job but about 8 years ago cost around
>> $900. Cdn for the cockpit surround on my BN6.
>>
>> If you had work done  on your cockpit surround pieces, like welding to
>> fill damaged area, unless you used a rod #5356 with TIG welding, the
>> anodizing will show up in dark grey where the welding was done and it will
>> look awful.
>>
>> I think from the suggestions you received here, the powder coating and
>> the metal polishing paste suggested by Ray Juncal may be your best bet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
>> *Sent: *November 4, 2022 8:00 PM
>> *To: *Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject: *[Healeys] Finish for Aluminum Cockpit Surround
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the recommended finish for the aluminum cockpit surround? The
>> original anodizing wasn't in good shape and has been stripped and the
>> aluminum has lots of scratches and nicks from over the years. These are the
>> finishes I was considering:
>>
>> Bare polished aluminum
>>
>> Re-anodizing
>>
>> Powder coating the same colour as anodizing
>>
>>
>>
>> I was leaning towards powder coating as it may be the best at hiding
>> nicks and scratches.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks... Harold
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">There are clear coat sprays you can apply to protect the =
shine.<div dir=3D"auto">I have a couple sets of trim pieces and one is shin=
ny the other dull. I need to find the best bits and rationalize the finish =
on them. Most likely I will polish</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 6, 2022, 10:25 AM Harol=
d Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>manifold@telus.net</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">First =
let me thank everyone for the tips and suggestions about the different fini=
shes for the cockpit mouldings. This is what I have done so far.<div><br></=
div><div>During the summer, when I could safely work outside, I stripped th=
e original anodizing=C2=A0in a bath of sodium hydroxide (also called Lye). =
This method did remove all of the original anodizing and left a dull, clean=
 surface.</div><div>Using a file and emery cloth I tried to remove as many =
of the nicks and scratches as I could. The final treatment for nicks and sc=
ratches was with a 3M sanding sponge and liberal amounts of WD40. This step=
 was very effective.</div><div><br></div><div>Despite all of the above ther=
e were remaining pits, nicks and scratches. Polishing wasn&#39;t high on my=
 list until I read Ray&#39;s post. I tried polishing a small area with some=
 Autosol Metal Polish I had lying around which is a similar=C2=A0product to=
 Met-All and the results were pretty good so I did both surrounds. Picture =
attached. My total cost to date is about $20 and will stick with the polish=
 and see how long the finish lasts.</div><div><br></div><div>Harold</div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On=
 Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 5:13 AM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div lang=
=3D"EN-US"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold,<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I never had any =
success with trying to strip the anodizing chemically. The best way is to h=
ave an anodizing company remove it by reverse anodizing. Du-All Anodizing G=
MP Plating Inc. stripped and anodized my BT7 cockpit molding for $115 USD. =
Wheel Techniques in Santa Clara California polished the pieces for $275. Th=
ose are 2013 prices so no doubt the cost will have increased.<u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">M=
y moldings were in pretty good shape.<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">John<u></u><u></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border-right=
:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,=
225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jean =
Caron<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 5, 2022 10:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> Har=
old Manifold &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank" re=
l=3D"noreferrer">manifold@telus.net</a>&gt;; Healey List &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Finish for Aluminum C=
ockpit Surround<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Harold,<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">First of all =
you indicate that the original anodizing has been stripped, how was this do=
ne? Was it done chemically? If it was simply sanded there would still be re=
mnant of the anodizing in the aluminium. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">As someone else said re anodizing would=
 very likely be the best solution, but it is expensive, or was. The place i=
n Ontario that used to do it, has closed down and they did a fantastic job =
but about 8 years ago cost around $900. Cdn for the cockpit surround on my =
BN6. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I=
f you had work done=C2=A0 on your cockpit surround pieces, like welding to =
fill damaged area, unless you used a rod #5356 with TIG welding, the anodiz=
ing will show up in dark grey where the welding was done and it will look a=
wful. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=
I think from the suggestions you received here, the powder coating and the =
metal polishing paste suggested by Ray Juncal may be your best bet.<u></u><=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Jean<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u>=
</u></span></p><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-le=
ft:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-CA">From: </span></b><span lang=3D"EN-CA=
"><a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer=
">Harold Manifold</a><br><b>Sent: </b>November 4, 2022 8:00 PM<br><b>To: </=
b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer">Healey List</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Finish for Aluminum Cock=
pit Surround<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-CA">Hello,<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">What is the recommended=C2=A0finish for th=
e aluminum cockpit surround? The original anodizing=C2=A0wasn&#39;t in good=
 shape and has been stripped and the aluminum has lots of scratches and nic=
ks from over the years. These are the finishes I was considering:<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Bare =
polished aluminum<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Re-anodizing<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Powder coating the same colour as an=
odizing<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lan=
g=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I was leaning towards powder coating as it may be th=
e best at hiding nicks and scratches.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Thanks... Harold<u></u=
><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div>
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