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For F****s sake give it away Josef =E2=80=93 you made your point, no-one =
agrees with you. Find some other way to massage your ego
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of =
josef-eckert--- via Healeys
Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2022 11:43 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
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So it isn=C2=B4t allowed to say anything negative, even its the truth?
Is that the world you are living?
But to get back to the facts. An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car =
lost control of his vehicle while=20
driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself and his wife in =
an accident.
Let's assume that instead of driving into the ditch, he would have =
collided with another road user which can be very likely and=20
this would have been injured or killed.
The police, especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested =
the person who caused the=20
accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated and the =
driver's license would have been=20
withdrawn forever. No mercy!
The driver would then have had to answer in court and would probably not =
have been happy with his life anymore.
Someone who has some sense does not put himself in such a situation.
It's just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit =
to such a danger.
I don't want to imply anything, but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as =
well, as is customary in Italy.
=20
Josef
54 100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars
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Betreff: RE: [Healey=E2=80=99s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
Datum: 2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200
Von: "Gil Rockwell" <gilrockwell@gmail.com =
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In a polite society if you don=E2=80=99t have anything positive to say, =
just be quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you =
grow in age, you will come to understand. =20
=20
Gil
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61 BT7
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Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 3:55 PM
Subject: AW: [Healey=E2=80=99s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
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Why? Just because you do not like to hear my opinion.
We are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the =
own, should be allowed without shouting against each other..
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-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: RE: [Healey=E2=80=99s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
Datum: 2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200
Von: "Gil Rockwell" <gilrockwell@gmail.com =
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Then I respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have =
said is completely disrespectful and unprofessional.
=20
Gil
61 BT7
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
via Healeys
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2022 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100
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I do not see a need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is =
grieving, she better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly =
thing as a multi day rally or planned drive in their high age.=20
Now she even lost her mother, who was definitely innocent.=20
Sorry, when it sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my =
mother tongue and I write this in English as I would write it in German =
language.=20
Josef Eckert=20
K=C3=B6nigswinter GERMANY=20
Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App=20
--- Original-Nachricht ---=20
Von: HealeyRick via Healeys=20
Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey 100=20
Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59=20
An: Randy Hicks=20
Cc: Healey List=20
I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, would be too pleased to =
read some of the comments about this accident. She and her dad seemed =
to have a lovely relationship based on classic cars and she must be =
grieving right now: =
https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-restocar-wo=
rkshop-montreux=20
Rick Neville=20
On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys =
Awful. =20
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lly-austin-healey/=20
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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>For F****s sake give it away Josef =
=E2=80=93 you made your point, no-one agrees with you. Find some other =
way to massage your ego<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>josef-eckert--- via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 8 October 2022 =
11:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Healeys] WG: Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey =
100<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>So =
it isn=C2=B4t allowed to say anything negative, even its the =
truth?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p style=3D'margin:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Is =
that the world you are living?</span><o:p></o:p></p><pre><span =
class=3Dy2iqfc><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>But to get back to the facts. =
An 82-year-old driver of a vintage car lost control of his vehicle while =
</span></span><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><br><span =
class=3Dy2iqfc>driving in Italy, drove into a ditch and killed himself =
and his wife in an accident.<o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre><span =
class=3Dy2iqfc><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Let's assume that instead of =
driving into the ditch, he would have collided with another road user =
which can be very likely and </span></span><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><br><span class=3Dy2iqfc>this =
would have been injured or =
killed.<o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre><span class=3Dy2iqfc><span =
lang=3DEN style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The police, =
especially in Italy where it happened, would have arrested the person =
who caused the </span></span><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><br><span =
class=3Dy2iqfc>accident immediately, the car would have been confiscated =
and the driver's license would have been </span><br><span =
class=3Dy2iqfc>withdrawn forever. No =
mercy!<o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre><span class=3Dy2iqfc><span =
lang=3DEN style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The driver would then =
have had to answer in court and would probably not have been happy with =
his life anymore.<o:p></o:p></span></span></pre><pre><span =
class=3Dy2iqfc><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Someone who has some sense does =
not put himself in such a situation.</span></span><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><br><span class=3Dy2iqfc>It's =
just foolish at such an old age, probably through hubris, to submit to =
such a danger.</span></span><o:p></o:p></pre><pre =
id=3Dtw-target-text><span class=3Dy2iqfc><span lang=3DEN =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I don't want to imply anything, =
but maybe a glass of wine was drunk as well, as is customary in =
Italy.</span></span><o:p></o:p></pre><div><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jos=
ef</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>54 =
100, 62 BT7, 65 Sprite, and other classic cars</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'>-----Original-Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'>Betreff: RE: [Healey=E2=80=99s] Sad news - Rallyist =
Killed in Healey 100<o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'>Datum: =
2022-10-07T22:05:30+0200<o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'>Von: =
"Gil Rockwell" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:gilrockwell@gmail.com";>gilrockwell@gmail.com</a>><o:p><=
/o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'>An: "<a =
href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&quo=
t; <<a =
href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>>=
, "<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>>, =
"'Forum Healey'" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>><o:p=
></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In a polite =
society if you don=E2=80=99t have anything positive to say, just be =
quiet, your negative comments help no one. Perhaps when you =
grow in age, you will come to understand. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Gil<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>61 =
BT7<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.de</a> =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>>=
<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> Friday, =
October 07, 2022 3:55 PM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> Gil =
Rockwell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:gilrockwell@gmail.com";>gilrockwell@gmail.com</a>>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>; Forum =
Healey <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>=
<strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> AW: =
[Healey=E2=80=99s] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey =
100<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Why=
? Just because you do not like to hear my =
opinion.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>We =
are still living in a free world and opinions, even different to the =
own, should be allowed without shouting against each =
other..</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'>-----Original-Nachricht-----<o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'>Betreff: RE: [Healey=E2=80=99s] Sad news - Rallyist =
Killed in Healey 100<o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'>Datum: =
2022-10-07T21:46:31+0200<o:p></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'>Von: =
"Gil Rockwell" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:gilrockwell@gmail.com";>gilrockwell@gmail.com</a>><o:p><=
/o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'>An: "<a =
href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>&quo=
t; <<a =
href=3D"mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de";>josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>>=
, "<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>>, =
"'Forum Healey'" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>><o:p=
></o:p></p><p style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0cm'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Then I =
respectfully suggest that you not write at all. What you have said =
is completely disrespectful and unprofessional.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Gil<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>61 =
BT7<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong> =
Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team=
.net</a>> <strong><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>On =
Behalf Of </span></strong>josef-eckert--- via Healeys<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> Friday, =
October 07, 2022 10:24 AM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>; Forum =
Healey <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>=
<strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: =
[Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey =
100<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I do not see a =
need to please Mr and Mrs Twaite's daughter. When she is grieving, she =
better would have kept her parents from doing such a silly thing as a =
multi day rally or planned drive in their high age. <br>Now she even =
lost her mother, who was definitely innocent. <br><br>Sorry, when it =
sounds harsh what I write, but English language is not my mother tongue =
and I write this in English as I would write it in German language. =
<br><br>Josef Eckert <br>K=C3=B6nigswinter GERMANY =
<br><br><br><br><br>Gesendet mit der Telekom Mail App =
<br><br><br><br>--- Original-Nachricht --- <br>Von: HealeyRick via =
Healeys <br>Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Sad news - Rallyist Killed in Healey =
100 <br>Datum: 07. Oktober 2022, 13:59 <br>An: Randy Hicks <br>Cc: =
Healey List <br><br><br>I don't think Mr. Twaite's daughter, Carolyn, =
would be too pleased to read some of the comments about this =
accident. She and her dad seemed to have a lovely relationship =
based on classic cars and she must be grieving right now: <a =
href=3D"https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/father-daughter-res=
tocar-workshop-montreux">https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/fa=
ther-daughter-restocar-workshop-montreux</a> <br><br><br>Rick Neville =
<br><br><br>On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:47 AM Randy Hicks via Healeys =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote: <br><br>Awful. <br><br><br><a =
href=3D"https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-expat-killed-horror-=
crash-rally-austin-healey/">https://www.the-sun.com/news/6355269/british-=
expat-killed-horror-crash-rally-austin-healey/</a> <br><br><br>Randy =
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