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Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Austin Healey 100 Misfire Diagnosis.
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2022 17:06:36 +0800
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Michael -

Just as a follow up to my email since the symptoms seem to manifest
themself  ...

   - whether the car is warmed up or not - this typically will exclude
   anything related to fuel or the coil
   - whether the car is under load or not - this typically will exclude
   anything related to fuel
   - whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exclude
   anything related to fuel
   - somewhat intermittent but systematically under all conditions -
   suggests to me wiring / ground issues

Given this I'd check (as a priority):

   - Battery Master (when these fail they will ground the coil)
   - primary ignition wire (white) from the switch to coil (cycle the
   connections)
   - motor ground straps (cycle the connections)
   - loose wires in the dizzy
   - loose ignition wires into the dizzy or spark plug

Other things to possibly do (as secondary):

   - replace rotor
   - replace dizzy cap

I don't think it would be contacts or condensor simply because this would
either be very regular all the time, or maybe sensitive to temp.

Best,

Alan


On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> re: "... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distrib=
utor wire
> ..."
>
> It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the 'OFF' position it
> grounds the coil primary so no spark.
>
>
> On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist wrote:
>
> Hi Michael -
>
> Have you tried cycling the connections on the white wire from the ignitio=
n
> switch to the coil, and also from the coil to the distributor.
>
> You might also want to try disconnecting the black and white wire at the
> coil from the battery master switch - if it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=
=99ll get weird
> symptoms like this.  If that wire is disconnected the car should run no
> problem.  I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the distri=
butor
> wire, if it isn=E2=80=99t you=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from under=
neath the master
> switch itself.
>
> Best,
>
> Alan
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Michael -<br><br>Just as a follow up to m=
y email since the symptoms seem to manifest themself=C2=A0=C2=A0...=C2=A0</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><ul><li>whether the car is warmed up or not - this typ=
ically will exclude anything related to fuel or the coil</li><li>whether th=
e car is under load or not - this typically will exclude anything related t=
o fuel</li><li>whether the choke is pulled or not - this typically will exc=
lude anything related to fuel</li><li>somewhat intermittent but systematica=
lly under all conditions - suggests to me wiring / ground issues</li></ul><=
div>Given this I&#39;d check (as a priority):<br><ul><li>Battery Master (wh=
en these fail they will ground the coil)</li><li>primary ignition wire (whi=
te) from the switch to coil (cycle the connections)</li><li>motor ground st=
raps (cycle the connections)</li><li>loose wires in the dizzy</li><li>loose=
 ignition=C2=A0wires into the dizzy or spark plug</li></ul><div>Other thing=
s to possibly do (as secondary):</div></div><div><ul><li>replace rotor</li>=
<li>replace dizzy cap</li></ul></div>I don&#39;t think it would be contacts=
 or condensor simply because this would either be very regular=C2=A0all the=
 time, or maybe sensitive to temp.<br><br>Best,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div>Alan<br><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 4:46 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    re: &quot;... I don=E2=80=99t recall if that wire is separate from the
    distributor wire ...&quot;<br>
    <br>
    It is (or should be). If the battery switch is in the &#39;OFF&#39; pos=
ition
    it grounds the coil primary so no spark.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 9/28/2022 8:34 PM, Alan Seigrist
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"auto">Hi Michael -</div>
      <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir=3D"auto">Have you tried cycling the connections on the
        white wire from the ignition switch to the coil, and also from
        the coil to the distributor.</div>
      <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir=3D"auto">You might also want to try disconnecting the black
        and white wire at the coil from the battery master switch - if
        it=E2=80=99s failing you=E2=80=99ll get weird symptoms like this.=
=C2=A0 If that wire
        is disconnected the car should run no problem.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99=
t recall
        if that wire is separate from the distributor wire, if it isn=E2=80=
=99t
        you=E2=80=99ll have to disconnect it from underneath the master swi=
tch
        itself.</div>
      <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir=3D"auto">Best,</div>
      <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
      </div>
      <div dir=3D"auto">Alan</div>
      </blockquote></div><br>
</blockquote></div></div>

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