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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Main beam warning light
From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2022 19:01:53 +0100
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Well, thank you all for your replies.

I don't normally put much stock in the Clausager book, except for colour
pictures. However, I did find this which does help:-"Blah blah.At the bottom
of the speedometer was a high beam warning lamp, originally red but changed
to blue on some export cars from chassis 14171 on the 3000 MarkII".

Now, bearing in mind that the UK calibration people seem to want to take
months to do a speedo, I bought a decent-looking but non-functional unit
from Michael. Hence the speedo came from over the pond or maybe somewhere
even more exotic..Which may relate to the "some exports" bit??

One last question, actually two:-

1.      How easy is to get the little lamp thing out of the dial so that I
can swap my red for blue?
2.      With regard to my tacho, the red light has always been practically
invisible. I'm pretty sure that, back in the dim distant past (could be 20+
years), I put a piece of red plastic into an otherwise empty hole. (100%
intact except for the red bit). The guy at Speedograph-Richfield said that
the red was just something cut from a piece of red acetate. Is that so?
Seems hard to imagine how...

Any ideas?

Simon

 

From: kags@shaw.ca <kags@shaw.ca> 
Sent: 10 September 2022 16:15
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Main beam warning light

 

Hi Simon:

 

My BT7 tri-carb, which is very close to yours in serial number from previous
conversations, has a blue high beam warning light (red ignition warning
light). I doubt that the UK / European cars were different - no indication
of different speedo / tach part numbers in the original parts books, but
perhaps another UK lister could chime in here and verify.  I suspect that
it's a typo in the Anderson Moment book.  The referral to 'ratio' is the
number that insures that the speedo head is is properly matched to the
different rear axle ratios that were used during the 6 cyl production - up
to the BJ8, which went to black instrument faces, and an electronic tach, as
Bob indicates.

 

Earl Kagna

Victoria, BC

BT7, BJ8

 

 

 

From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
Healeys
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 1:41 AM
Subject: [Healeys] Main beam warning light

 

We're looking at a MkII BT7 here....

So, my speedo has just come back from calibration and, comparing it to the
one still in the car I see that the former has a RED "Main beam warning
light" whereas the latter, still in the car, has a BLUE one. 

The bible, Anderson & Moment, is confused and confusing on the topic. Page
104:- "..next was the speedometer, with a number on its face indicating its
ratio, and which included a mileage meter, resettable odometer, and the RED
"ignition" (discharging) warning light....On the right was the tachometer
with a number on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the RED
high-beam warning light." 

Now, unless that all refers to LHD cars, that's just a muddle. Doubtless
subject to subsequent corrections.

However, it leaves me confused as to which colour is correct.

So......?

Thanks,

Simon

 


 
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link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3DWordSection1><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Well, thank =
you all for your replies.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I =
don&#8217;t normally put much stock in the Clausager book, except for =
colour pictures. However, I did find this which does help:-&#8220;Blah =
blah&#8230;At the bottom of the speedometer was a high beam warning =
lamp, originally red but changed to blue on some export cars from =
chassis 14171 on the 3000 MarkII&#8221;.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Now, =
bearing in mind that the UK calibration people seem to want to take =
months to do a speedo, I bought a decent-looking but non-functional unit =
from Michael. Hence the speedo came from over the pond or maybe =
somewhere even more exotic&#8230;.Which may relate to the &#8220;some =
exports&#8221; bit??<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>One last question, actually =
two:-<o:p></o:p></span></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' start=3D1 =
type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>How easy is to get the little lamp =
thing out of the dial so that I can swap my red for =
blue?<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>With regard to my tacho, the red =
light has always been practically invisible. I&#8217;m pretty sure that, =
back in the dim distant past (could be 20+ years), I put a piece of red =
plastic into an otherwise empty hole. (100% intact except for the red =
bit). The guy at Speedograph-Richfield said that the red was just =
something cut from a piece of red acetate. Is that so? Seems hard to =
imagine how&#8230;..<o:p></o:p></span></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Any =
ideas?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> kags@shaw.ca =
&lt;kags@shaw.ca&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> 10 September 2022 =
16:15<br><b>To:</b> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Healey List &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: =
[Healeys] Main beam warning light<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Hi =
Simon:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>My BT7 =
tri-carb, which is very close to yours in serial number from previous =
conversations, has a blue high beam warning light (red ignition warning =
light). I doubt that the UK / European cars were different &#8211; no =
indication of different speedo / tach part numbers in the original parts =
books, but perhaps another UK lister could chime in here and =
verify.&nbsp; I suspect that it&#8217;s a typo in the Anderson Moment =
book.&nbsp; The referral to &#8216;ratio&#8217; is the number that =
insures that the speedo head is is properly matched to the different =
rear axle ratios that were used during the 6 cyl production - up to the =
BJ8, which went to black instrument faces, and an electronic tach, as =
Bob indicates.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Earl =
Kagna<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>Victoria, BC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'>BT7, =
BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team=
net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Simon Lachlan via =
Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 10, 2022 1:41 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>=
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Main beam warning =
light<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We&#8217;re looking at a MkII BT7 =
here&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>So, my =
speedo has just come back from calibration and, comparing it to the one =
still in the car I see that the former has a RED &#8220;Main beam =
warning light&#8221; whereas the latter, still in the car, has a BLUE =
one. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The bible, Anderson &amp; =
Moment, is confused and confusing on the topic. Page 104:- =
&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;next was the speedometer, with a number on its face =
indicating its ratio, and which included a mileage meter, resettable =
odometer, and the RED &#8220;ignition&#8221; (discharging) warning =
light&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.On the right was the tachometer with a number =
on the face indicating the ratio, and incorporating the RED high-beam =
warning light.&#8221; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Now, unless =
that all refers to LHD cars, that&#8217;s just a muddle. Doubtless =
subject to subsequent corrections.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>However, it leaves me confused as to which colour is =
correct.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;?<o:p></o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Simon<o:p></o:p></p><div =
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