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Remember- SU was a plumbing company, manufacturers of toilets, and=0Adev=
eloped our "carburetters". Hank=0A=0A=09--------------------------------=
---------From: "Bob Spidell" =0ATo: healeys@autox.team.net=0ACc: =0ASent=
: Sunday April 17 2022 9:47:39AM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater t=
ap on the block=0A=0A More-or-less.=0A=0A It's an, uh, 'interesting' par=
t. Usually, you'd expect a ball valve=0Ain this type of application but,=
instead of a ball the valve is=0Acone-shaped, with a hole for water pas=
sage. The cone is held within=0Athe (tapered) body by a spring, with a t=
hin washer on one side and a=0Athick one, notched to limit the 90deg mov=
ement, on the other. Because=0Ait's a cone, the valve requires the sprin=
g to hold it tight against=0Athe body, but if they part the valve will l=
eak. I found this out=0Arecently when my heater control valve started to=
leak and I thought=0A"No problem, I'll just close the block valve." The=
n, I took a drive=0Aand the block valve started leaking so badly I neede=
d a tow home. I=0Ahadn't 'exercised' this valve in a long time and I thi=
nk finally=0Agetting it to move opened a gap between the cone and the bo=
dy of the=0Avalve (the spring is supposed to hold them tightly together)=
. I took=0Ait apart, cleaned it, and put a slightly thicker flat washer=
on the=0Aspring.=0A=0A Moral of the story: 'Work' this valve occasional=
ly (maybe at oil=0Achanges). If yours is stuck, don't grab a wrench or p=
liers--the handle=0Ais fragile--but lightly tap the spring side, maybe w=
ith a screwdriver=0Ahandle. If you're lucky, that will break the adhesio=
n between the=0Amoving, cone-shaped valve and its body.=0A=0A A fine exa=
mple of British over-engineering.=0A=0AOn 4/17/2022 9:11 AM, BJ8Healeys=
via Healeys wrote:=0A=0A=09 Mine does. =0A=0A=09 FROM: Richard Kahn [m=
ailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com]=0ASENT: Sunday, April 17, 2022 12:06 PM=
=0ATO: healeys@autox.team.net; BJ8Healeys=0ASUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl=
heater tap on the block =0A=0A=09 Is the lever suppose move all the w=
ay to the perpendicular position?=0A =0A-------------------------=0A=0A=
=09 FROM: Healeys on behalf of BJ8Healeys via Healeys =0ASENT: Sunday,=
April 17, 2022 7:01 AM=0ATO: healeys@autox.team.net =0ASUBJECT: Re: [He=
aleys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block =0A=0A=09 The ON position is at th=
e full counterclockwise rotation of the=0Ahandle. =0A=0A=09 The last tim=
e I had the valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and=0Aapplied anti-se=
ize compound to the tapered shaft. Still works very=0Asmoothly. =0A=0A=
=09 Steve Byers =0A=0A=09 HBJ8L/36666 =0A=0A=09 BJ8 Registry =0A=0A=09 A=
HCA Delegate at Large =0A=0A=09 Havelock, NC USA =0A=0A=09 FROM: Healey=
s [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] ON BEHALF OF=0ARichard Kahn=0A=
SENT: Saturday, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM=0ATO: Bob Spidell; healeys@autox.=
team.net=0ASUBJECT: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block =0A=0A=
=09 Your photo made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve.=
=0AStill the lever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have=0Alea=
rned not to fix anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is until it=0Astar=
ts leaking someday. =0A=0A-------------------------=0A=0A=09 FROM: He=
aleys on behalf of Richard Kahn =0ASENT: Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:56=
AM=0ATO: Bob Spidell ; healeys@autox.team.net =0ASUBJECT: Re: [Healeys]=
6 cyl heater tap on the block =0A=0A=09 Did I miss the answer to the q=
uestion? Is it closed in the=0Acounterclockwise position? My BJ8 is open=
(getting heat) with the=0Alever at the 7:30 position viewed from the fr=
ont. It has always been=0Athat way. In US plumbing the heat would be off=
with the lever=0Aperpendicular to the hose and valve. =0A------------=
-------------=0A=0A=09 FROM: Healeys on behalf of Bob Spidell =0ASENT:=
Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM=0ATO: healeys@autox.team.net =0ASUBJEC=
T: Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the block =0A=0A=09Oh, I should ha=
ve added: Be careful trying to turn, esp. if it hasn't=0A been 'exercise=
d' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe soak in a=0A penetrant first=
). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if you can push=0Ait=0A in and out=
a few times may help loosen it.=0A=0A On 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigr=
ist via Healeys wrote:=0A > Quick Q -=0A >=0A > If looking at the tap fr=
om the top, is it closed with the lever in=0Athe=0A > full counterclockw=
ise position, or the full clockwise positiom?=0A >=0A > Happy Easter &=
=0A > Happy Passover!=0A >=0A > Cheers,=0A >=0A > Alan=0A >=0A=0A
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<html><body>Remember- SU was a plumbing company, manufacturers of toilet=
s, and developed our "carburetters". Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new=
-signature"></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From:=
"Bob Spidell" <bspidell@comcast.net><br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>C=
c: <br>Sent: Sunday April 17 2022 9:47:39AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6=
cyl heater tap on the block<br><br>=0AMore-or-less.<br><br>=0AIt's an,=
uh, 'interesting' part. Usually, you'd expect a ball valve=0Ain this ty=
pe of application but, instead of a ball the valve is=0Acone-shaped, wit=
h a hole for water passage. The cone is held within=0Athe (tapered) body=
by a spring, with a thin washer on one side and=0Aa thick one, notched=
to limit the 90deg movement, on the other.=0ABecause it's a cone, the v=
alve requires the spring to hold it tight=0Aagainst the body, but if the=
y part the valve will leak. I found=0Athis out recently when my heater c=
ontrol valve started to leak and=0AI thought "No problem, I'll just clos=
e the block valve." Then, I=0Atook a drive and the block valve started l=
eaking so badly I needed=0Aa tow home. I hadn't 'exercised' this valve i=
n a long time and I=0Athink finally getting it to move opened a gap betw=
een the cone and=0Athe body of the valve (the spring is supposed to hold=
them tightly=0Atogether). I took it apart, cleaned it, and put a slight=
ly thicker=0Aflat washer on the spring.<br><br>=0AMoral of the story: 'W=
ork' this valve occasionally (maybe at oil=0Achanges). If yours is stuck=
, don't grab a wrench or pliers--the=0Ahandle is fragile--but lightly ta=
p the spring side, maybe with a=0Ascrewdriver handle. If you're lucky, t=
hat will break the adhesion=0Abetween the moving, cone-shaped valve and=
its body.<br><br>=0AA fine example of British over-engineering.<br><br>=
<br><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 4/17/2022 9:11 AM, BJ8Healeys via=
=0AHealeys wrote:<br></div>=0A<blockquote>=0A<div class=3D"Section1">=0A=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri=
, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">=0AMine does.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><a><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-ser=
if';color:#1F497D;">=0A </span></a></p>=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"bor=
der:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, '=
sans-serif';">=0AFrom:</span></b> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Tahoma, 'sans-serif';">=0ARichard Kahn [<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-fre=
etext">mailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com</a>]<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April=
17, 2022 12:06 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated">h=
ealeys@autox.team.net</a>;=0ABJ8Healeys<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]=
6 cyl heater tap on the=0Ablock</span></p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0AIs the lever su=
ppose move all the way to the perpendicular=0Aposition?</span></p>=0A</d=
iv>=0A<div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center;" align=3D"cen=
ter">=0A<hr width=3D"98%" size=3D"2" align=3D"center"></div>=0A<div>=0A<=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calib=
ri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0AFrom:</span></b> <span style=3D"font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0AHealeys=
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&g=
t;</a>=0Aon behalf of BJ8Healeys via Healeys <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rf=
c2396E"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April=
17, 2022 7:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated">he=
aleys@autox.team.net</a>=0A<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><healey=
s@autox.team.net></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 6 cyl heater t=
ap on the=0Ablock</span></p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p>=
=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0A=
The ON position is at the full counterclockwise rotation of the=0Ahandle=
.</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0AThe last time I had th=
e valve off I took it apart, cleaned it, and=0Aapplied anti-seize compou=
nd to the tapered shaft. Still works=0Avery smoothly.</span></p>=
=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:Cal=
ibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0A </span></p>=0A<p class=3D"xm=
sonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif=
';color:#000000;">=0ASteve Byers</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000=
000;">=0AHBJ8L/36666</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:14pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0ABJ8=
Registry</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
14pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0AAHCA Delegate=
at Large</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
14pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0AHavelock, NC&n=
bsp; USA</span></p>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><a><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#1F497D;">=0A </span=
></a></p>=0A<div>=0A<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1=
pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in 0in;">=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, 'sans-serif';">=0AFrom:</span></b=
> <span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma, 'sans-serif';">=0AHe=
aleys [<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net</a>]=0A<b>On Behalf Of</b> Richard Kahn<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday=
, April 16, 2022 1:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell; <a class=3D"moz-txt-=
link-abbreviated">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Hea=
leys] 6 cyl heater tap on the=0Ablock</span></p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<p=
class=3D"xmsonormal"> </p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span=
style=3D"font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0AYour phot=
o made me check. It actuall does say off and on the valve.=0AStill the l=
ever seems ot be half way between off and on. I have=0Alearned not to fi=
x anything that is working. So, 7:30 it is=0Auntil it starts leaki=
ng someday.</span></p>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><span=
style=3D"font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0A </s=
pan></p>=0A</div>=0A<div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center;=
" align=3D"center">=0A<hr width=3D"98%" size=3D"2" align=3D"center"></di=
v>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0AFrom:</span></b> <spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#00000=
0;">=0AHealeys <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><healeys-bounces@au=
tox.team.net></a>=0Aon behalf of Richard Kahn <a class=3D"moz-txt-lin=
k-rfc2396E"><tahoehealey@hotmail.com></a><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday=
, April 16, 2022 9:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell <a class=3D"moz-txt-l=
ink-rfc2396E"><bspidell@comcast.net></a>;=0A<a class=3D"moz-txt-li=
nk-abbreviated">healeys@autox.team.net</a>=0A<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rf=
c2396E"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heale=
ys] 6 cyl heater tap on the=0Ablock</span></p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"xms=
onormal"> </p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"xmso=
normal"><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;"=
>=0ADid I miss the answer to the question? Is it closed in the=0Acounter=
clockwise position? My BJ8 is open (getting heat) with the=0Alever at th=
e 7:30 position viewed from the front. It has always=0Abeen that way. In=
US plumbing the heat would be off with the lever=0Aperpendicular to the=
hose and valve.</span></p>=0A</div>=0A<div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"text-align:center;" align=3D"center">=0A<hr width=3D"98%" size=3D"2" al=
ign=3D"center"></div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=3D"xmsonormal"><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'sans-serif';color:#000000;">=0A=
From:</span></b> <span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri, 'san=
s-serif';color:#000000;">=0AHealeys <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E">&=
lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a>=0Aon behalf of Bob Spidell <a=
class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br><b>=
Sent:</b> Saturday, April 16, 2022 9:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a class=3D"moz=
-txt-link-abbreviated">healeys@autox.team.net</a>=0A<a class=3D"moz-txt-=
link-rfc2396E"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re:=
[Healeys] 6 cyl heater tap on the=0Ablock</span></p>=0A<div>=0A<p class=
=3D"xmsonormal"> </p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<p class=
=3D"xmsonormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
1pt;">Oh, I should have added: Be careful trying to=0Aturn, esp. if it h=
asn't<br>=0Abeen 'exercised' in a while. The handle is fragile (maybe so=
ak in=0Aa<br>=0Apenetrant first). Also, the valve is spring-loaded, if y=
ou can push=0Ait<br>=0Ain and out a few times may help loosen it.<br><br=
>=0AOn 4/16/2022 12:57 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:<br>=0A> Q=
uick Q -<br>=0A><br>=0A> If looking at the tap from the top, is it=
closed with the=0Alever in the<br>=0A> full counterclockwise positio=
n, or the full clockwise=0Apositiom?<br>=0A><br>=0A> Happy Easter=
&<br>=0A> Happy Passover!<br>=0A><br>=0A> Cheers,<br>=0A&g=
t;<br>=0A> Alan<br>=0A><br></span><br></p>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</d=
iv>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</blockquote>=0A<br></bspidell@comcast.=
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