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Re: [Healeys] “New” Healey 100

To: gradea1@charter.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] “New” Healey 100
From: HealeyRick via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 16:49:04 -0400
Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>, Steven Kingsbury <airtightproductions@me.com>
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Now I'm a bit confused, because I read elsewhere, JME builds them a frame.
Then I remembered there are new US regs that allow for building a small
amount of replicas that needn't meet all the current regs:
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-bu=
siness-boost
Don't know how that would work in the UK and Europe, though.

Here's a video on the car:
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-bu=
siness-boost

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On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:05 PM <gradea1@charter.net> wrote:

> Rick-if that's so, then I wonder- does Envisage have 24 more Healey 100s
> chassis in which to apply their half million dollar bodies? Maybe they ar=
e
> Kilmartin or AH Spares frames, BUT then they need valid original chassis
> plates. In the UK that is known as a "bitsa" car. Certainly not legal. Ye=
a,
> save your cash for an S. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "HealeyRick"
> To: gradea1@charter.net
> Cc: "Steven Kingsbury", "healeys@autox.team.net"
> Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:52:41PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] =E2=80=9CNew=E2=80=9D Healey 100
>
> I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100 frame and I believe
> chassis number as well so it is probably "technically" still a Healey and
> entitled to carry the badge on the front.  If the market is UK and Euro, =
it
> would probably be much easier to pass through all the regulations as an o=
ld
> Healey rather than a completely new car needing belts, air bag, bumpers,
> emissions, etc., etc., etc.
>
> I'll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much.  I have as much
> chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of ugliness.
>
> Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick
>
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> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM Henry G Leach via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the Austin-Healey
>> winged badge on the car,  It was the sole owner ship of Healey Consultan=
ts
>> and when Margot passed the "family" tried to negotiate with the Chinese
>> company NaingJung, but the deal fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to t=
he
>> name?Hank
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>> From: "Steven Kingsbury"
>> To: gradea1@charter.net
>> Cc: "Bob Spidell", "healeys@autox.team.net"
>> Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] =E2=80=9CNew=E2=80=9D Healey 100
>>
>> And to ad to the conversation, why didn't they turn the wheel over? One
>> up in the center would have been more in keeping with the original
>> orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the three "spokes' =
are
>> set 120 degrees apart.
>> Oh well.
>> To each his own, but not for me.
>> Steven Kingsbury
>> BN1
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks like a sa=
d
>> 100 rather than a smiling one.  Nothing uglier than black wire wheels to
>> accent the '50s style.  This guy Caton must be using some old taxi engin=
es
>> bored out to 3L. Not how I want to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would
>> turn over in their graves if they saw this upgrade of their original
>> design...gosh they hated XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the
>> capper) Hank
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------
>> From: "Bob Spidell"
>> To: healeys@autox.team.net
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] =E2=80=9CNew=E2=80=9D Healey 100
>>
>> That's gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that affect
>> handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty squirrelly.
>>
>> On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys wrote:
>>
>> Agreed.  It is a nicely completed modification, but really for that
>> amount of dosh there are many other cars I'd rather get.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM andy pole via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What a load of rubbish =C2=A3400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, late=
r
>>> brakes, suspension and a teenager let=E2=80=99s delete the door handles=
!
>>>
>>> I can do it for =C2=A3350k if anyone is that stupid! =F0=9F=98=82
>>>
>>> Also read it this morning in a Hagerty link
>>>
>>> <https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-healey-powers-=
back-into-production/?utm_source=3DSFMC&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_content=3DME=
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315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b>
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back-into-production/?utm_source=3DSFMC&utm_medium=3Demail&utm_content=3DME=
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15f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b
>>>
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>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Randall
>>> Hicks via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 13, 2022 10:25:09 AM
>>> *To:* Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* [Healeys] =E2=80=9CNew=E2=80=9D Healey 100
>>>
>>>
>>> Well=E2=80=A6this is interesting!!  =F0=9F=98=85
>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-bri=
tish-classic>
>>> <https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-bri=
tish-classic>
>>> <https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-bri=
tish-classic>
>>> https://www.topgear.com/car-news/retro/healey-caton-new-old-ps474k-brit=
ish-classic
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Now I&#39;m a bit confused, because I read elsewhere, JME =
builds them a frame.=C2=A0 Then I remembered there are new US regs that all=
ow for building a small amount of replicas that needn&#39;t meet all the cu=
rrent regs:=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulati=
ons-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost">https://www.foxnews.com/aut=
o/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost</a>=C2=A0 Don&=
#39;t know how that would work in the UK and Europe, though.<div><br></div>=
<div>Here&#39;s a video on the car:=C2=A0=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://www.foxne=
ws.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-business-boost">htt=
ps://www.foxnews.com/auto/new-regulations-give-us-classic-car-replica-busin=
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gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 4:05 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@c=
harter.net">gradea1@charter.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Rick-if that&#39;s so, then I wonder-=
 does Envisage have 24 more Healey 100s chassis in which to apply their hal=
f million dollar bodies? Maybe they are Kilmartin or AH Spares frames, BUT =
then they need valid original chassis plates. In the UK that is known as a =
&quot;bitsa&quot; car. Certainly not legal. Yea, save your cash for an S. H=
ank<br><br><div></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From:=
 &quot;HealeyRick&quot; <u></u><br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">gradea1@charter.net</a><br>Cc: &quot;Steven Kingsbury&=
quot;, &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">he=
aleys@autox.team.net</a>&quot;<br>Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:52:41PM<=
br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =E2=80=9CNew=E2=80=9D Healey 100<br><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I read in one of the stories that they kept the 100
frame and I believe chassis number as well so it is probably
&quot;technically&quot; still a Healey and entitled to carry the badge on t=
he
front.=C2=A0 If the market is UK and Euro, it would probably be
much easier=C2=A0to pass through all the regulations as an old
Healey rather than a completely=C2=A0new car needing belts, air
bag, bumpers, emissions, etc., etc., etc.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0
<div><br></div>
<div>I&#39;ll be saving my money for a 100S, thank you very much.=C2=A0
I have as much chance of getting one of those as I do this bit of
ugliness.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Rick Neville - aka Healey Rick</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 3:16 PM
Henry G Leach via Healeys &lt;<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div>I do not believe that they (Caton) can legally use the
Austin-Healey winged badge on the car,=C2=A0 It was the sole owner
ship of Healey Consultants and when Margot passed the &quot;family&quot;
tried to negotiate with the Chinese company NaingJung, but the deal
fell thru. Did Caton get the rights to the name?Hank<br><br><p>------------=
-----------------------------</p>
From: &quot;Steven Kingsbury&quot;<br>
To: <a>gradea1@charter.net</a><br>
Cc: &quot;Bob Spidell&quot;, &quot;<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&quot;<br>
Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 12:01:05PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] =E2=80=9CNew=E2=80=9D Healey 100<br><br><div>
<div>And to ad to the conversation, why didn&#39;t they turn the wheel
over? One up in the center would have been more in keeping with the
original orientation of the original steering wheel. It seems the
three &quot;spokes&#39; are set 120 degrees apart.<br></div>
<div>Oh well.=C2=A0<br></div>
<div>To each his own, but not for me.<br></div>
<div>Steven Kingsbury<br></div>
<div>BN1=C2=A0</div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote>
<div>On Apr 13, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys
&lt;<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>
<div>Half a million bucks and we are going to hide the grille-looks
like a sad 100 rather than a smiling one.=C2=A0 Nothing uglier than
black wire wheels to accent the &#39;50s style.=C2=A0 This guy Caton
must be using some old taxi engines bored out to 3L. Not how I want
to remember 100s. Donald and Geoff would turn over in their graves
if they saw this upgrade of their original design...gosh they hated
XC-52 (the fireball so much-this would be the capper)
Hank<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<p>-----------------------------------------<br></p>
<div>From: &quot;Bob Spidell&quot;<br></div>
<div>To: <a>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br></div>
<div>Cc:<br></div>
<div>Sent: Wednesday April 13 2022 8:57:13AM<br></div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] =E2=80=9CNew=E2=80=9D Healey 100<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>That&#39;s gotta be 4-5 degrees of negative camber; how would that
affect handling? Seems like it would make a 100 pretty
squirrelly.<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>On 4/13/2022 2:45 AM, Alan Seigrist via Healeys
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>Agreed.=C2=A0 It is a nicely completed modification, but
really for that amount of dosh there are many other cars I&#39;d rather
get.<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Cheers,<br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Alan<br></div>
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 5:37 PM
andy pole via Healeys &lt;<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255=
)">What a load of
rubbish =C2=A3400k for an engine overhaul from Jme, later brakes,
suspension and a teenager let=E2=80=99s delete the door
handles!=C2=A0<br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255=
)"><br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255=
)">I can do it
for =C2=A3350k if anyone is that stupid! =F0=9F=98=82<br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255=
)"><br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255=
)">Also read it
this morning in a Hagerty link<br></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255=
)"><a href=3D"https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/news-articles/austin-heale=
y-powers-back-into-production/?utm_source=3DSFMC&amp;utm_medium=3Demail&amp=
;utm_content=3DMED_UN_UK_EML_UN_UKNews_Weekly&amp;hashed_email=3D9b083a3970=
aa1a65e353e6b224dca13315f6de88d070a377b45df8e1e8f0122b" target=3D"_blank"><=
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Hicks via Healeys &lt;<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Wed=
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