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Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans
From: Jim Ryan <ryan@jimryan.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 07:25:47 -0500
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I also have run 20-50 Castrol in both my BJ7 and MK1 Sprite.  Never an
issue.  But, I have often wondered about the synthetic question.  Can I in
fact change over to that, and if so, what would the pros/cons be?

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 4:57 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> I've run 20W-50 in both my Healeys--BN2 and BJ8--for years (35+ for the
> BJ8). Note some owners swear by Penrite, which has a 60-rated oil (don't
> know what the winter value is).
>
> The only real 'risk' would be a cold start at freezing or lower temps,
> which could conceivably result in a bit more top end--and starter--wear.
>
> bs
>
>
> On 3/20/2022 2:14 PM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote:
>
> Michaels-what a timely request. Just last week, I changed the oil in my
> MK1 Sprite.  I normally use 30W conventional oil. When I went to the
> various auto stores in my town, all I could find was synthetic or synthet=
ic
> blends. By luck one of the "Grocery" stores was selling some Castrol 20-5=
0
> regular oil in a 5qt jug for $19.95. (closeout?)  I bought it, and change=
d
> the oil and the car road tested ran perfect and sounded great with clean
> oil and same oil pressure as previous. In fear, I went back and bought th=
e
> last two remaining jugs of this elixir they had on the shelf.
>
> Back when these cars were introduced, multi-grades were just starting to
> become available and Geoff Healey stated that although interesting, they
> would still recommend 30W. I plan to use it in the 100 and BJ8, also, as
> factory specified, in the Jensen-Healey. I have had occasion to see
> synthetics, due to there small molecular size, leak out of these cars
> whereas the conventional oil will stay in.
>
> I think if Geoff was still with us today, he would agree that there is
> nothing wrong with multi-grades but probably not recommend synthetics
> unless you could keep a diaper under your Healey. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: "Michael Salter via Healeys"
> To: "Michael Oritt"
> Cc: "Austin Healey"
> Sent: Sunday March 20 2022 1:51:06PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans
>
> IMHO Michael that will be absolutely no problem.
>
> M
>
> On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022, 4:45 p.m. Michael Oritt via Healeys, <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Through a stupid mistake on my part today I purchased eight quarts of
>> 20w50 synthetic Amsoil rather than the 10w40 I normally use year-round.
>> Unfortunately I discovered this mistake this afternoon only after I
>> completed the oil/filter change.
>>
>> I am concerned that this higher-viscosity oil might in some way damage m=
y
>> engine.  It has been about 60-70K miles from the engine's having been
>> professionally rebuilt and while oil pressure has fallen somewhat over t=
he
>> last several years the gauge still indicates about 40 psi at 2500-3K rpm=
's
>> and about 20 psi at fast idle with 10w40, in both cases with hot oil and=
 at
>> normal engine operating temperature.  I took the car for a very short sp=
in
>> after completing the change and I am quite sure I did not did not get th=
e
>> oil up to full operating temperatures but in any case the OP did seem a =
few
>> psi higher than what I am used to seeing
>>
>> At this point I have about $125.00 invested in the mistake:  seven quart=
s
>> and a new K&N filter.  If my fear is verified by your opinions I am
>> certainly willing to drain and refill--I certainly do not want to be
>> driving around if there is a real risk of causing damage.
>>
>> I eagerly await the group wisdom.
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I also have run 20-50 Castrol in both my BJ7 and MK1 Sprit=
e.=C2=A0 Never an issue.=C2=A0 But, I have often wondered about the synthet=
ic question.=C2=A0 Can I in fact change over to that, and if so, what would=
 the pros/cons be?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" cla=
ss=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 4:57 PM Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></d=
iv><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bord=
er-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    I&#39;ve run 20W-50 in both my Healeys--BN2 and BJ8--for years (35+ for
    the BJ8). Note some owners swear by Penrite, which has a 60-rated
    oil (don&#39;t know what the winter value is). <br>
    <br>
    The only real &#39;risk&#39; would be a cold start at freezing or lower
    temps, which could conceivably result in a bit more top end--and
    starter--wear.<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 3/20/2022 2:14 PM, Henry G Leach via
      Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      Michaels-what a timely request. Just last week, I changed the oil
      in my MK1 Sprite.=C2=A0 I normally use 30W conventional oil. When I
      went to the various auto stores in my town, all I could find was
      synthetic or synthetic blends. By luck one of the &quot;Grocery&quot;=
 stores
      was selling some Castrol 20-50 regular oil in a 5qt jug for
      $19.95. (closeout?)=C2=A0 I bought it, and changed the oil and the ca=
r
      road tested ran perfect and sounded great with clean oil and same
      oil pressure as previous. In fear, I went back and bought the last
      two remaining jugs of this elixir they had on the shelf.
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Back when these cars were introduced, multi-grades were just
        starting to become available and Geoff Healey stated that
        although interesting, they would still recommend 30W. I plan to
        use it in the 100 and BJ8, also, as factory specified, in the
        Jensen-Healey. I have had occasion to see synthetics, due to
        there small molecular size, leak out of these cars whereas the
        conventional oil will stay in.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I think if Geoff was still with us today, he would agree that
        there is nothing wrong with multi-grades but probably not
        recommend synthetics unless you could keep a diaper under your
        Healey. Hank<br>
        <br>
        <p>-----------------------------------------</p>
        From: &quot;Michael Salter via Healeys&quot; <u></u><br>
          To: &quot;Michael Oritt&quot;<br>
          Cc: &quot;Austin Healey&quot;<br>
          Sent: Sunday March 20 2022 1:51:06PM<br>
          Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil grade for 100 Le Mans<br>
          <br>
          <div>IMHO Michael that will be absolutely no
            problem.=C2=A0
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>M</div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Mar. 20, 2022,
              4:45 p.m.
              Michael Oritt via Healeys, &lt;<a>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
              <div dir=3D"ltr">
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
>Through
                  a stupid
                  mistake on=C2=A0my part today I purchased eight quarts of
                  20w50
                  synthetic Amsoil rather than the 10w40 I normally use
                  year-round.=C2=A0 Unfortunately I discovered this mistake
                  this
                  afternoon only after I completed the oil/filter
                  change.</div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
><br>
                </div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
>I am
                  concerned
                  that this higher-viscosity oil might in some way
                  damage my
                  engine.=C2=A0 It has been about 60-70K miles from
                  the=C2=A0engine&#39;s
                  having been professionally rebuilt and while oil
                  pressure has
                  fallen somewhat over the last several years the
                  gauge=C2=A0still=C2=A0indicates about 40 psi at 2500-3K r=
pm&#39;s
                  and
                  about 20 psi at fast idle with 10w40,=C2=A0in both cases
                  with hot
                  oil and at normal engine operating temperature.=C2=A0 I
                  took the
                  car for a very short spin after completing the change
                  and I am
                  quite sure I did not did not get the oil up to full
                  operating
                  temperatures but in any case the OP did seem a few psi
                  higher than
                  what I am used to seeing</div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
><br>
                </div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
>At
                  this point I
                  have about $125.00 invested in the mistake:=C2=A0 seven
                  quarts and
                  a new K&amp;N filter.=C2=A0 If my fear is verified by you=
r
                  opinions
                  I am certainly willing to drain and refill--I
                  certainly do not want
                  to be driving around if there is a real risk of
                  causing
                  damage.=C2=A0</div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
><br>
                </div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
>I
                  eagerly await
                  the group wisdom.</div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
><br>
                </div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
>Best--Michael
                  Oritt</div>
                <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,255)"=
><br>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
        <u></u></div>
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