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Re: [Healeys] Penrite or John Deere CHG.

To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Penrite or John Deere CHG.
From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 12:17:35 -0500
Cc: Austin Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Thanks for that Bob

In case you wanted to know, Ketchup (Catsup) is thixotropic which explains
why, once it gets started moving, invariably comes out of the bottle at a
faster rate and in a greater quantity than planned.
Teflon is also thixotropic. On my old Hobie 14 a teflon molding fit in a
socket onto which the mast was stepped.  The mast rotated on its vertical
axis as the sail was trimmed with the Teflon minimizing friction and
preventing binding notwithstanding substantial pressure between mast and
step.

Enjoy the party....

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 11:25 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:

> To clarify, all grease guns--at least the half-dozen or so I have--take a
> cartridge with a plastic cap on one end and an aluminum 'pop-top' seal (o=
r
> just foil) on the other. The pop-top/foil and plastic cap are removed and
> the cartridge full of grease is inserted into the gun pop-top end first,
> but not before the feeder spring is retracted and locked in place. Then,
> the end cap of the gun is screwed back on and the spring released, so tha=
t
> it can force grease to the outlet end, from which it is pumped out under
> pressure, with either a pistol or lever type piston pump. CHG, I noticed,
> does not come out of the gun in a steady stream when pumped, there seems =
to
> be air or something in the stream, which requires a bunch of fruitless
> pumping of the gun until another slug comes out.
>
> For all of you thinking 'Well, Duh! Who didn't know that?!' I had to
> figure this out on my own and made some sizable messes in doing so, and
> still do sometimes--it's an inherently messy process. My concern now is
> have I lost some of the oily goodness in the CHG that actually does the
> lubricating*, and where can I find the specialty CHG dispenser to add to =
my
> collection of grease dispensers? And, to further prove I have way too muc=
h
> time on my hands, and insufficient energy to use it wisely, I knew this
> 'grease turns into an oil' miracle must have a scientific name with which
> you can impress your friends and make them think 'What a smart-ass,' so I
> found it:
>
> 'Thixotropic'   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thixotropy
>
> Now, you can be the hit of the next cocktail party--assuming we ever have
> parties again--or, maybe, you can win a fortune on Jeopardy!
>
> You're welcome.
>
> Bob
>
> * All greases are oil with a thickening agent; think lithium, molybdenum,
> etc. The cheap stuff usually uses finely-ground diatomaceous earth (aka
> 'dirt').
>
>
>
> On 2/8/2022 1:49 AM, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com wrote:
>
> Bob, that may be a good point. When I went to the agricultural place for
> the grease, they suggested that I buy their grease gun. I bought it for i=
ts
> flexible nozzle which is a blessing. Perhaps they sold it so that it
> wouldn=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9Cliquefy and leak=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=99ve never t=
hought about its inner workings.
> It has a pistol-grip pump action so I suppose that=E2=80=99s the only pre=
ssure.
>
> Maybe the recipe is to buy the tubes of CHG gloop and use it with a
> pistol-grip pump. I doubt John Deere actually manufacture the gun althoug=
h
> they=E2=80=99ve branded it and jacked the price up accordingly.
>
> It=E2=80=99s a decent thing, though on the large size, and I use it for p=
retty
> well all greasing jobs.
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> >> It'll liquefy and leak in a spring-loaded grease gun however.
>
>
> On 2/7/2022 3:54 PM, Don via Healeys wrote:
>
> Yes John Deere corn head grease.  I had a steering box that wouldn=E2=80=
=99t hold
> much and I wasn=E2=80=99t about to pull the steering column/box out . I=
=E2=80=99ve done
> this before but it was on a total rebuild. I filled the box up with this
> corn head grease , and so far no big leaks . =F0=9F=A4=9E. Time will tell=
 I=E2=80=99m sure
>
>             Don
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2022, at 5:58 PM, i erbs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> Heat it up first in hot water. You'll thank me later.
>
> Ira Erbs
> 1959 AH 100-6
> 1967 MGB
> Milwaukie, OR
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 2:51 PM Bob Begani via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> John Deere Cornhead Grease is what they had made for the cornhead which i=
s
> an articulated joint out at the end of the combine which is like our
> steering box.  I used it 4 years ago and not a drop from the steering box
> so far. Amazon sells it in a cartridge and in tubes.
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Team.net
> *Sent:* Monday, February 7, 2022 2:52 PM
> *To:* Ray Juncal <healeyray@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* List Healey <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Penrite
>
>
>
> John Deere Cornhead Grease.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Thank=
s for that Bob=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333=
ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">In case =
you wanted to know, Ketchup=C2=A0(Catsup) is thixotropic which explains why=
, once it gets started moving, invariably comes out of the bottle at a fast=
er rate and in a greater=C2=A0quantity than planned.</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Teflon is also thixotropic. On my old H=
obie 14 a teflon molding fit in a socket onto which the mast was stepped.=
=C2=A0 The mast rotated on its vertical axis as the sail was trimmed with t=
he Teflon minimizing=C2=A0friction and preventing binding notwithstanding s=
ubstantial pressure between mast and step.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"color:#3333ff">Enjoy the party....</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 11:25 AM=
 Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex=
">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    To clarify, all grease guns--at least the half-dozen or so I
    have--take a cartridge with a plastic cap on one end and an aluminum
    &#39;pop-top&#39; seal (or just foil) on the other. The pop-top/foil an=
d
    plastic cap are removed and the cartridge full of grease is inserted
    into the gun pop-top end first, but not before the feeder spring is
    retracted and locked in place. Then, the end cap of the gun is
    screwed back on and the spring released, so that it can force grease
    to the outlet end, from which it is pumped out under pressure, with
    either a pistol or lever type piston pump. CHG, I noticed, does not
    come out of the gun in a steady stream when pumped, there seems to
    be air or something in the stream, which requires a bunch of
    fruitless pumping of the gun until another slug comes out.<br>
    <br>
    For all of you thinking &#39;Well, Duh! Who didn&#39;t know that?!&#39;=
 I had to
    figure this out on my own and made some sizable messes in doing so,
    and still do sometimes--it&#39;s an inherently messy process. My concer=
n
    now is have I lost some of the oily goodness in the CHG that
    actually does the lubricating*, and where can I find the specialty
    CHG dispenser to add to my collection of grease dispensers? And, to
    further prove I have way too much time on my hands, and insufficient
    energy to use it wisely, I knew this &#39;grease turns into an oil&#39;
    miracle must have a scientific name with which you can impress your
    friends and make them think &#39;What a smart-ass,&#39; so I found it:<=
br>
    <br>
    &#39;Thixotropic&#39;=C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/w=
iki/Thixotropy" target=3D"_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thixotropy<=
/a><br>
    <br>
    Now, you can be the hit of the next cocktail party--assuming we ever
    have parties again--or, maybe, you can win a fortune on Jeopardy!<br>
    <br>
    You&#39;re welcome.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    * All greases are oil with a thickening agent; think lithium,
    molybdenum, etc. The cheap stuff usually uses finely-ground
    diatomaceous earth (aka &#39;dirt&#39;).<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 2/8/2022 1:49 AM,
      <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; target=3D"_blank=
">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
     =20
     =20
      <div>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Bob,
            that may be a good point. When I went to the agricultural
            place for the grease, they suggested that I buy their grease
            gun. I bought it for its flexible nozzle which is a
            blessing. Perhaps they sold it so that it wouldn=E2=80=99t =E2=
=80=9Cliquefy
            and leak=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=99ve never thought about its inner w=
orkings. It
            has a pistol-grip pump action so I suppose that=E2=80=99s the o=
nly
            pressure.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Maybe
            the recipe is to buy the tubes of CHG gloop and use it with
            a pistol-grip pump. I doubt John Deere actually manufacture
            the gun although they=E2=80=99ve branded it and jacked the pric=
e up
            accordingly. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>It=E2=80=99s
            a decent thing, though on the large size, and I use it for
            pretty well all greasing jobs.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">&gt;&gt; It&#39=
;ll
          liquefy and leak in a spring-loaded grease gun however.<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <u></u><u></u></p>
        <div>
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 2/7/2022 3:54 PM, Don via Healeys
            wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
        </div>
        <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
          <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yes John Deere corn head grease.=C2=A0 I h=
ad a
            steering box that wouldn=E2=80=99t hold much and I wasn=E2=80=
=99t about to
            pull the steering column/box out . I=E2=80=99ve done this befor=
e but
            it was on a total rebuild. I filled the box up with this
            corn head grease , and so far no big leaks . <span style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;,sans-serif">=F0=9F=A4=9E</span>.
            Time will tell I=E2=80=99m sure=C2=A0 <u></u><u></u></p>
          <div>
            <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">=C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
              =C2=A0 Don=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p>
            </div>
            <div>
              <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
                <br>
                <u></u><u></u></p>
              <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">On Feb
                  7, 2022, at 5:58 PM, i erbs via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto=
:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</=
a>
                  wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
              </blockquote>
            </div>
            <blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
              <div>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF <u></u><u></u></p>
                <div>
                  <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Heat
                    it up first in hot water. You&#39;ll thank me later.<u>=
</u><u></u></p>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>
                      1959 AH 100-6<br>
                      1967 MGB<br>
                      Milwaukie, OR<u></u><u></u></p>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
                <div>
                  <div>
                    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 2:51 PM
                      Bob Begani via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;bo=
rder-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm=
 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16p=
t;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-US">John Deere Cornhead Grease i=
s
                            what they had made for the cornhead which is
                            an articulated joint out at the end of the
                            combine which is like our steering box.=C2=A0 I
                            used it 4 years ago and not a drop from the
                            steering box so far. Amazon sells it in a
                            cartridge and in tubes.</span><span lang=3D"EN-=
US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16p=
t;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"E=
N-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16p=
t;font-family:Arial,sans-serif" lang=3D"EN-US">Bob Begani</span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                        <div>
                          <div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:non=
e;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0cm 0c=
m">
                            <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">=
From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys=
-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt;
                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Team.net<br>
                                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 7, 2022
                                2:52 PM<br>
                                <b>To:</b> Ray Juncal &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:healeyray@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">healeyray@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                <b>Cc:</b> List Healey &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<=
br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Penrite<u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
                        <div>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">John =
Deere Cornhead Grease.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12p=
t"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
                          <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
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        </blockquote>
        <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
      </div>
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