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Re: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of engine

To: David Nock BCS <healeydoc@sbcglobal.net>, healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of engine
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2022 11:14:12 -0800
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I was always concerned about (soft) copper washers squishing and 
relieving tension on the bolts, so I put grade 8 flat washers on top of 
the copper. In fact, I almost always use grade 8 flat washers, except 
where inconsequential (they don't cost much than the flimsy ones).


On 1/5/2022 10:55 AM, David Nock BCS wrote:
> Also take a close look at the bolt that hold the bell housing to the 
> transmisison case. They go thru into the oil in the transmission and 
> will leak. When rebuilding a transmission we always use copper washers 
> with out the lock washers and thread sealer.
> David Nock
> healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
> 209 948 8767
> www.britishcarspecialists.com
>
> Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the
> British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your favorites
> by visiting the site at.
> www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org
> *From:* Bob Spidell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 05, 2022 9:35 AM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of engine
> If you pull your gearbox, also check the seal on the gearbox input 
> shaft. It goes to the same place engine oil does.
>
>
> On 1/5/2022 6:28 AM, rfbegani@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I know there have been discussions on oil leak from the rear of the 
>> engine.  However, in reading through the archives I found this inquiry:
>>
>> When I rebuilt my AH3000 engine, I fitted an after market rear seal.
>>
>> Unfortunately after I buttoned everything up and started the engine I
>>
>> discovered a troublesome oil leak.  So out came the gearbox, the clutch
>>
>> flywheel and the engine back plate.  Upon careful examination of the
>>
>> rear seal, I can find absolutely no leak.  However, there is oil weeping
>>
>> from the bearing cap that holds the cam in place.
>>
>> Is this normal?  Can the bearing  be replaced with the engine in the 
>> car?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Larry Swift
>>
>> There were no responses to the inquiry.  So can the cap that holds 
>> the cam in place be removed while the engine is in the car. Could the 
>> cap be sealed from the outside with todays technology of sealants? 
>> Also, according to the external engine diagrams in the moss catalog 
>> it does not show the back of the engine or the cap.
>>
>> Looking for answers to my continued oil leak problems.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bob Begani
>>
>>
>

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    I was always concerned about (soft) copper washers squishing and
    relieving tension on the bolts, so I put grade 8 flat washers on top
    of the copper. In fact, I almost always use grade 8 flat washers,
    except where inconsequential (they don't cost much than the flimsy
    ones).<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/5/2022 10:55 AM, David Nock BCS
      wrote:<br>
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          <div>Also take a close look at the bolt that hold the bell
            housing to the transmisison case. They go thru into the oil
            in the transmission and will leak. When rebuilding a
            transmission we always use copper washers with out the lock
            washers and thread sealer.</div>
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          <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR:
            #000000">David Nock<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>
            209 948 8767<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";>www.britishcarspecialists.com</a><br>
            <br>
            Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the <br>
            British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your
            favorites <br>
            by visiting the site at.<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="http://www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org";>www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org</a><br>
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                <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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                    Spidell</a> </div>
                <div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 05, 2022 9:35 AM</div>
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                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Oil leak from rear of
                  engine</div>
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            COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; DISPLAY: inline">If you
            pull your gearbox, also check the seal on the gearbox input
            shaft. It goes to the same place engine oil does.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/5/2022 6:28 AM, <a
                class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
                    FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">I know
                    there have been discussions on oil leak from the
                    rear of the engine.  However, in reading through the
                    archives I found this inquiry:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
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&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black">When I rebuilt my AH3000
                    engine, I fitted an after market rear seal.  
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black">Unfortunately after I
                    buttoned everything up and started the engine I 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black">discovered a troublesome
                    oil leak.  So out came the gearbox, the clutch 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black">flywheel and the engine
                    back plate.  Upon careful examination of the 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black">rear seal, I can find
                    absolutely no leak.  However, there is oil weeping 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black">from the bearing cap that
                    holds the cam in place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black">Is this normal?  Can the
                    bearing  be replaced with the engine in the car? 
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
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                <p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: #eeeeee"><span
                    style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Courier
                    new&quot;; COLOR: black">Larry Swift<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
                    FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">There
                    were no responses to the inquiry.  So can the cap
                    that holds the cam in place be removed while the
                    engine is in the car. Could the cap be sealed from
                    the outside with todays technology of sealants?
                    Also, according to the external engine diagrams in
                    the moss catalog it does not show the back of the
                    engine or the cap.  <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
                    FONT-FAMILY: 
&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
                    FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Looking
                    for answers to my continued oil leak 
problems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
                    FONT-FAMILY: 
&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
                    FONT-FAMILY: 
&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
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&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span> </p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 16pt;
                    FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Bob
                    Begani<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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