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To: Randall Hicks <healey100m@me.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Door Brace -
From: Curtis Arndt via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 08:03:35 -0800
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Jean,

I will have to re-read the current guidelines, but as far as I'm concerned,
if an aluminium head is "Indistinguishable" from the original, there should
be ZERO deductions!

I have one on my car and it is "Indistinguishable" from the original.  Just
like I have a period original 3.54 rear end and other unseen period options
for my stock, non LeMans BN1 that will out run any "stock 100M". The whole
point of AH Concours was to encourage our cars to be driven, and to NOT be
"Trailer Queens" as are a lot of marque Concours.

Another member of the Concours Committee has the exact same engine mods
that I do, so I'm in good company. Neither of our cars can be distinguished
as not being 100% stock from the factory in 1955.

Cheers,

Curt

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:39 PM Randall Hicks <healey100m@me.com> wrote:

> My Jan. 19, 1956 & Feb. 3, 1956 build BN2/100M=E2=80=99s both have the br=
ace.
>
> Randy
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 10:12 PM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> DO NOT REMOVE!
>
> That bracing was original to late BN2s, and as such is absolutely
> correct.  It's a not well known detail, but it is how it came from the
> factory (Jensen).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Curt
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Jean Caron via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Quite possibly the reason why this was done.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
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>> *Sent: *November 17, 2021 9:03 PM
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>> *Cc: *Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>; AH Mail Lis=
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>> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Door Brace -
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the doors would be prone to oilcanning without the braces.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Michael Salter via Healeys <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>>
>> Jean, I  have now had an opportunity to check the doors in my low mileag=
e
>> BN2 and voil=C3=A0 there they are ... inside both doors.
>>
>> Must have been only on later cars because neither of my BN1s has them.
>>
>>
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed., Nov. 17, 2021, 6:56 p.m. Jean Caron via Healeys, <
>> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone ever run into something like this, this is what appears to be
>> a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I am currently
>> restoring. At the top it was attached to the horizontal wood piece held
>> there with two countersunk wood screws. At the bottom, it entered and
>> turned to the inside and was secured with two rivets to the door bottom
>> frame piece.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Jean,<div><br></div><div>I will have to re-read the curren=
t=C2=A0guidelines, but as far as I&#39;m concerned, if an aluminium head=C2=
=A0is &quot;Indistinguishable&quot; from=C2=A0the original, there should be=
 ZERO=C2=A0deductions!=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I have one on my car =
and it is &quot;Indistinguishable&quot; from the original.=C2=A0 Just like =
I have a period original 3.54 rear end and other unseen period options for =
my stock, non LeMans BN1 that will out run any &quot;stock 100M&quot;. The =
whole point of AH Concours was to encourage=C2=A0our cars to be driven, and=
 to NOT be &quot;Trailer Queens&quot; as are a lot of marque Concours.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Another member=C2=A0of the Concours Committee =
has the exact same engine mods that I do, so I&#39;m in good company. Neith=
er of our cars can be distinguished as not being 100% stock from the factor=
y=C2=A0in 1955.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div>=
<div>Curt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:39 PM Randall Hicks &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healey100m@me.com";>healey100m@me.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-lef=
t:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">My Jan. 19, 1956 &amp; Feb. 3, 1956 build BN2/100M=E2=80=99s both =
have the brace.<div><br></div><div>Randy<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from =
my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 17, 2021=
, at 10:12 PM, Curtis Arndt via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><=
/blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div =
dir=3D"ltr">DO NOT REMOVE!=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>That bracing was origin=
al to late BN2s, and as such is absolutely correct.=C2=A0 It&#39;s a not we=
ll known detail, but it is how it came from the factory (Jensen).</div><div=
><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>Curt</div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 17, =
2021 at 7:06 PM Jean Caron via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.=
team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Quite possibly the reason why this was done.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jean</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0cm"><b>From: </b><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank">Bob Spidell</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>November 17, 2021 9:03 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">Mic=
hael Salter</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com"; targ=
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<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Door Brace -</p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I think the doors would be prone to oilcanning witho=
ut the braces.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:2=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jean, I=C2=A0 have now had an opportunity to check t=
he doors in my low mileage BN2 and voil=C3=A0 there they are ... inside bot=
h doors.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Must have been only on later cars because neither of=
 my BN1s has them.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">M<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed., Nov. 17, 2021, 6:56 p.m. Jean Caron via Hea=
leys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Has anyone ever run into something like this, this i=
s what appears to be a brace that was in the driver side door in the BN2 I =
am currently restoring. At the top it was attached
 to the horizontal wood piece held there with two countersunk wood screws. =
At the bottom, it entered and turned to the inside and was secured with two=
 rivets to the door bottom frame piece.</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jean</p>
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