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Re: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims

To: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>, "simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims
From: Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2021 15:35:56 -0800
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Thread-topic: RE: [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims
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'word-wrap:break-word'><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I hav=
e two layers (1/8=E2=80=9D) of packing shims between the master cylinder an=
d the firewall and the brake pedal is about 1=E2=80=9D below the clutch ped=
al. Is the whole idea to keep the brake pedal below the clutch pedal?</p><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Harold<o:p></o=
:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:=
para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0i=
n 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: =
</b><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";>richard mayor</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:12 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:simon=
.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br><b>C=
c: </b><a href=3D"mailto:manifold@telus.net";>Harold Manifold</a>; <a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Healeys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Heal=
eys] Master Cylinder Packing Shims</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>The &quot;packing pieces&quot;, or shi=
ms, go between the firewall and master cylinders.&nbsp; They move the maste=
r cylinders forward which then moves the pedal arms forward resulting in th=
e pedal foot pad being lower. This way you can adjust the clutch and brake =
pedals to be at the same height. &nbsp; It does not change the stroke of th=
e master cylinder in any way.</p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:=
p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 11:31 AM Simon =
Lachlan via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;bord=
er-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;mar=
gin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Certainly 4 are shown in=
 my parts book, so suitable for MkIIs. Shaped and show as a fit between cyl=
inder and bulkhead. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso=
-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Surely =
the fact there are 4 indicates that they are indeed meant as some form of a=
djustment shim.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-marg=
in-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>In my drawer=
 of brake and clutch related =E2=80=9Cuseful stuff=E2=80=9D there was an ap=
parently unused brake master cylinder with an adjustable push rod. The shaf=
t=E2=80=99s rod was threaded and screwed in and out of the clevis pin end a=
nd could be locked with a nut.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal st=
yle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-=
GB>Perhaps the cheap(er) shims replaced the more expensive cylinder?<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-ma=
rgin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>Adjusting the shaft in situ would =
be an absolute nightmare for anyone who wasn=E2=80=99t whippet thin and pos=
sessed of short arms with many joints.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoN=
ormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span la=
ng=3DEN-GB>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-mar=
gin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext=
 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:a=
uto'><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.=
net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold Mani=
fold via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 November 2021 16:56<br><b>To:</b> Ken F=
leming via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Master Cylinder Packing S=
hims<span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=
=3DEN-GB>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-marg=
in-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Who knows what the purpose of t=
he Master Cylinder Packing Piece is? There are 4 on the brake master cylind=
er and none on the clutch master cylinder. As far as I can tell the packing=
 piece would reduce the distance the push rod can travel into the bore of t=
he master cylinder. Is there an adjustment for the brake pedal and push rod=
 that you use these packing pieces to set?<span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bo=
ttom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMs=
oNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The wo=
rkshop manual specifically mentions =E2=80=9Cnot forgetting to fit the pack=
ing washer first=E2=80=9D as part of the brake master cylinder installation=
.<span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso=
-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<span lang=3DEN-GB><=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;=
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=3D0 width=3D96 height=3D96 style=3D=
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" src=3D"cid:17d067e82b74ce8e91"><span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto'>&nbsp;<span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<span lan=
g=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks=E2=80=A6 Harold<span lang=3DE=
N-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt=
:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<span lang=3DEN-GB><o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-marg=
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