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Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: Healey Shift Stick
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2021 14:16:44 -0700
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Forwarding to The List on behalf of Bob Begani:

ps. Bob, check your email client for 'unread messages' or similar, List 
emails are arriving to me out of sequence.


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Subject:        Healey Shift Stick
Date:   Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36 -0400
From:   Bob Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>
To:     Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>



It seems I am not able to send to the Healey Group so I am writing to 
you directly because you just wrote to Tom regarding trans shift problems.

Thanks for your help,

Bob Begani

*Sent:* Saturday, October 16, 2021 10:01 AM
*Subject:* FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter

Listeners:

I wrote the letter below to the Group with no response, so maybe it went 
astray.  Meanwhile, I researched the archives for information and found 
the following:

the thing happened to me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, except I was stuck in

reverse. Very inconvenient   Shift lever just flopped around, and would not

engage anything.

The small bottom "ball" of the shift lever had come out of its socket in 
the

remote shift rod that goes into the top of the transmission.

you have a Moss catalog, look at page 84, item #31.  It is N/A, but you

can make one.  Pull off the console and the cover of the transmission. If

my problem is the same as yours, one of the small "tits" on the end of the

bolt that goes into the side of the shift tower has broken off which allows

the shift lever to go past its normal range and disengage from its socket.

This "tit" fits into a slot in the side of the big ball on the shift lever,

controlling its side-to-side motion.  If the lever goes too far to one side

of the other, it comes out of the socket and flops around.

Get a long bolt w/ the same threads as the broken one, check the overall

length, turn the end down so it will fit into the slot, and you are done.

So, I followed those instructions and found the tits were worn and no 
longer fitting into the groove in the ball. My friend the machinist was 
going to make new bolts, when we decided to remove the thick lock 
washers and screwed bolts into the groove of the ball.  With a little 
adjustment of the length of the bolt into the grove, we got the shifter 
to go through all the gears. My question to the Group, is this the 
finished product?  Or should we make new longer bolts. Does and one know 
the length, and so on?

As I looked on the Moss catalog, I noticed that there should have been a 
bushing at the bottom of the of the shift stick.  The  into socket the 
shift stick rides is not too worn, so I am hoping that a new bush and 
circle clip, bearing grease assembly and so on will get me back on the 
road.

Let me know if you have any suggestions,

Regards,

Bob Begani

BJ8 late model

*Sent:* Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:48 AM
*Subject:* BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter

I backed the Healey out of the garage into the street, shifted into 
first to straight out, into neutral and moved the shifter to the left 
and noticed it when all the way left and that it is loose.  The trans is 
locked in reverse.  When the engine is off the shifter is sloppy.  So, 
before I remove the shift stick from the trans,  What should I do?

Bob Begani

67 BJ8


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    <div class="moz-forward-container">Forwarding to The List on behalf
      of Bob Begani:<br>
      <br>
      ps. Bob, check your email client for 'unread messages' or similar,
      List emails are arriving to me out of sequence.<br>
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            <td>Mon, 18 Oct 2021 17:05:36 -0400</td>
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            <td>Bob Begani <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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            <td>Bob Spidell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;</a></td>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">It
            seems I am not able to send to the Healey Group so I am
            writing to you directly
            because you just wrote to Tom regarding trans shift
            problems.  </span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Thanks
            for your help,</span></p>
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            style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bob
            Begani</span></p>
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            style="font-size:18pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b>
          <a href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
            style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" 
moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>
          &lt;<a href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
            style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" 
moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          <br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 16, 2021 10:01 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
            style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> FW: BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter</p>
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style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            
style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Listeners:</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I
            wrote the letter below to the Group with no response, so
            maybe it went
            astray.  Meanwhile, I researched the archives for
            information and found
            the following:</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">the
            thing happened to me w/ my center shift BT7 MK2, except I
            was stuck in </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">reverse. 
            Very inconvenient   Shift lever just flopped around, and
            would not </span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">engage
            anything.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The
            small bottom "ball" of the shift lever had come out of its
            socket in
            the </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">remote
            shift rod that goes into the top of the transmission.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">you
            have a Moss catalog, look at page 84, item #31.  It is N/A,
            but you </span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">can
            make one.  Pull off the console and the cover of the
            transmission. If </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">my
            problem is the same as yours, one of the small "tits" on the
            end of
            the </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">bolt
            that goes into the side of the shift tower has broken off
            which allows </span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">the
            shift lever to go past its normal range and disengage from
            its socket. </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">This
            "tit" fits into a slot in the side of the big ball on the
            shift
            lever, </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">controlling
            its side-to-side motion.  If the lever goes too far to one
            side </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">of
            the other, it comes out of the socket and flops around.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Get
            a long bolt w/ the same threads as the broken one, check the
            overall </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">length,
            turn the end down so it will fit into the slot, and you are
            done.</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">So,
            I followed those instructions and found the tits were worn
            and no longer
            fitting into the groove in the ball. My friend the machinist
            was going to make
            new bolts, when we decided to remove the thick lock washers
            and screwed bolts
            into the groove of the ball.  With a little adjustment of
            the length of
            the bolt into the grove, we got the shifter to go through
            all the gears. 
            My question to the Group, is this the finished product?  Or
            should we make
            new longer bolts. Does and one know the length, and so 
on?</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">As
            I looked on the Moss catalog, I noticed that there should
            have been a bushing
            at the bottom of the of the shift stick.  The  into socket
            the shift
            stick rides is not too worn, so I am hoping that a new bush
            and circle clip,
            bearing grease assembly and so on will get me back on the
            road.  </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Let
            me know if you have any suggestions,</span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            
style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Regards,</span></p>
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            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bob
            Begani</span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">BJ8
            late model</span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          
style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b>
          <a href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
            style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" 
moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>
          &lt;<a href="mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";
            style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" 
moz-do-not-send="true">rfbegani@gmail.com</a>&gt;
          <br>
          <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 14, 2021 11:48 AM<br>
          <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
            style="color:rgb(5,99,193)" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a><br>
          <b>Subject:</b> BJ8 4 speed transmission center shifter</p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I
            backed the Healey out of the garage into the street, shifted
            into first to straight
            out, into neutral and moved the shifter to the left and
            noticed it when all the
            way left and that it is loose.  The trans is locked in
            reverse.  When
            the engine is off the shifter is sloppy.  So, before I
            remove the shift
            stick from the trans,  What should I do?</span></p>
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
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          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> </span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span
            style="font-size:20pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Bob
            Begani  </span></p>
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            BJ8</span></p>
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