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Speaking of putting something on the splines--------do any of you coat the =
splines with permatex after inserting a new oil seal in the rear of your tr=
anny shaft?
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:20:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
Since we're grasping at input shafts, er, straws ... Did you lube
the splines with anything? I know it's a slight risk given grease
could be slung onto the disk or cover plate--although engine oil
will likely end up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've always done
it with no issues (if anybody cares, my favorite product for things
like this is Redline's wheel bearing grease).
I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the issue, as I
think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've never
heard of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input
shaft.
On 9/27/2021 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--- via
Healeys wrote:
I
agree with Richard =E2=80=93 I go through the same =E2=80=9Cmicro=E2=80=9D=
centering
process. From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Sent: September 26, 2021 12:39 PM
To:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca; Healeys
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query One suggestion: When you use the
centering tool (plastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all
the way up then all the way down, then do the same from
side to side, then split the difference with the tool in
place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts. I
personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 times
to make sure I am as close to the center position as
possible. One question: Why do you think the
metal input shaft is harder to use than the plastic
tool? The input shaft is much longer than the plastic
tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center
position when moving it through its range of motion as you
align the disc. On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon
Lachlan via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
wrote: To revert to the problem I=E2=80=99ve being
having with my gearbox not wanting to reinstall to
my new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6 Bleeding it made no difference.. It was
a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=80=99d not lost any fluid
but miracles are always welcome. The gearbox is on the workshop floor as
is the new clutch. Before removing the new clutch I played
around with the AH Spares plastic alignment tool and
my spare shaft. Both went in without any trouble but
I suppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d been
miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in
the gearbox just as it should. See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to=
me that the
old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with
benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well
alone! It=E2=80=99s been in there for 27 years that I know
of. There were/are a few discrepancies between the
old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99t think
these would matter???? Are there any obvious steps that I
might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to
me! I haven=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel.
Didn=E2=80=99t see why? It=E2=80=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical an=
d
works. People state a preference for alignment
with a spare shaft rather than the black plastic
tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be
somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely? I=E2=80=99m reluctant to=
reinstall and just
repeat the whole sorry process=E2=80=A6. Any suggestion? Thanks,Simon
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<html><head><style> body {height: 100%; color:#000000; font-size:12pt; font=
-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;}</style></head><body><div>Speaking of=
putting something on the splines--------do any of you coat the splines wit=
h permatex after inserting a new oil seal in the rear of your tranny shaft?=
</div><div><br></div><div>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Bob Spidell=
<bspidell@comcast.net><br>To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>Sent: Mon, 2=
7 Sep 2021 11:20:35 -0400 (EDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query<=
br></div><div><br></div><br> Since we're grasping at input shafts, er, stra=
ws ... Did you lube<br> the splines with anything? I know it's a slight ris=
k given grease<br> could be slung onto the disk or cover plate--although en=
gine oil<br> will likely end up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've alway=
s done<br> it with no issues (if anybody cares, my favorite product for thi=
ngs<br> like this is Redline's wheel bearing grease).<br><div><br></div><br=
> I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the issue, as I<br> =
think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've never<br> heard =
of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input<br> shaft.<br><div=
><br></div><div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/2021 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--=
- via<br> Healeys wrote:<br></div><blockquote cite=3D"mid:004901d7b3b0$a1db=
9fa0$e592dee0$@sympatico.ca"><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-far=
east-language: EN-US;">I<br> agree with Richard =E2=80=93 I go through the =
same =E2=80=9Cmicro=E2=80=9D centering<br> process.</span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language: EN-US;" data-mce-style=3D"ms=
o-fareast-language: EN-US;"> </span></p><div style=3D"border: none; bo=
rder-top: solid #E1E1E1<br> 1.0pt; padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;" da=
ta-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #E1E1E1<br> 1.0pt;=
padding: 3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US=
">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> richard mayor <a class=3D"moz-txt-l=
ink-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" data-=
mce-href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";><boyracer466@gmail.com></a>=
<br><b>Sent:</b> September 26, 2021 12:39 PM<br><b>To:</b><a class=3D"moz-t=
xt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>si=
mon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-a=
bbreviated" href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca"; target=3D"_blank" data-m=
ce-href=3D"mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca";>m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>; Heale=
ys<br> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team=
.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><=
;healeys@autox.team.net></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Clutch=
query</span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">One suggestion: When you use the<br> centering tool (p=
lastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all<br> the way up then all the way dow=
n, then do the same from<br> side to side, then split the difference with t=
he tool in<br> place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts. I<br>=
personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 times<br> to make sure =
I am as close to the center position as<br> possible.</p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">One question: W=
hy do you think the<br> metal input shaft is harder to use than the plastic=
<br> tool? The input shaft is much longer than the plastic<br> =
tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center<br> position when=
moving it through its range of motion as you<br> align the disc.</p></div>=
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On =
Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon<br> Lachlan via Healeys <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:hea=
leys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br> wrote:</p></div><bl=
ockquote style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #CCCCCC<br> 1=
.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm<br> 6.0pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin=
-right: 0cm;" data-mce-style=3D"border: none; border-left: solid #CCCCCC<br=
> 1.0pt; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm<br> 6.0pt; margin-left:=
4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-m=
argin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&nbs=
p;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-=
margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-m=
argin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">To revert to the problem I=E2=
=80=99ve being<br> having with my gearbox not wanting to reinstall to<br> m=
y new clutch=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"ms=
o-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso=
-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">&=
nbsp;</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; m=
so-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Bleeding it made no differ=
ence.. It was<br> a forlorn hope as I was sure I=E2=80=99d not lost any flu=
id<br> but miracles are always welcome.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" st=
yle=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-sty=
le=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D=
"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">The gearbox is on=
the workshop floor as<br> is the new clutch.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-m=
ce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-to=
p-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Before remo=
ving the new clutch I played<br> around with the AH Spares plastic alignmen=
t tool and<br> my spare shaft. Both went in without any trouble but<br> I s=
uppose they would have anyhow unless they=E2=80=99d been<br> miles out?? Th=
e new clutch slides onto the shaft in<br> the gearbox just as it should.</s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin=
-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data=
-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span=
lang=3D"EN-GB">See attached file=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6Seems to me that the<br>=
old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with<br> benefit of 20/20 hindsig=
ht, one might have left well<br> alone! It=E2=80=99s been in there for 27 y=
ears that I know<br> of. There were/are a few discrepancies between the<br>=
old and new clutches. See attached. I don=E2=80=99t think<br> these would =
matter????</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: au=
to; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: aut=
o; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt=
: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Are there any obvious steps that I<br> might h=
ave missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to<br> me!</span></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" =
data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><=
span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-mar=
gin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I hav=
en=E2=80=99t taken out the flywheel.<br> Didn=E2=80=99t see why? It=E2=80=
=99s in; it=E2=80=99s straight/vertical and<br> works.</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: au=
to;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: aut=
o;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"m=
so-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"ms=
o-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
People state a preference for alignment<br> with a spare shaft rather than =
the black plastic<br> tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be<br> som=
ewhat more precise, but harder to use surely? </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-=
mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-=
top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I=E2=80=99=
m reluctant to reinstall and just<br> repeat the whole sorry process=E2=80=
=A6.</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso=
-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: au=
to;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: aut=
o;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Any suggestion?</span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-st=
yle=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB"> </span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-=
alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-a=
lt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Thanks,</span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bo=
ttom-alt: auto;" data-mce-style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bot=
tom-alt: auto;"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simon</span></p></div></div><br></bloc=
kquote></div></div></blockquote><br><div><br></div><div><br></div></body></=
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