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OK Richard, I get that. I=E2=80=99ve been over zealous but no harm.
I do confess to, perhaps, being overly obsessed with =
=E2=80=9Ccentring=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=99ve been sitting on the cold garage =
floor with my head, at a most uncomfortable height, where the gearbox =
would sit. I=E2=80=99ve been lining it all up by eye. Hard to =
explain=E2=80=A6..stick the black nylon thing in and try to centre it, =
by eye, within the circle at the centre of the =E2=80=9Cplate =E2=80=93 =
release lever=E2=80=9D (Thing held in by three metal clips). Idea being =
to keep the circumference of the nylon equidistant all the way round =
with the plate=E2=80=99s centre. If you see what I mean.
What, I think, was happening was that the plate would move slightly off =
centre as the bolts were tightened up. One time, I got them precisely =
equidistant, but the shaft would not go in and out. I=E2=80=99ve =
reverted to my previous method which was to tighten up the bolts, little =
by little, whilst constantly checking the shaft for perfect in/out =
movement.
By that method, at least, it=E2=80=99s perfectly aligned and I just =
await another pair of hands. Tomorrow, maybe.
I shall support it underneath if I can. Hopefully with a trolley jack. =
It=E2=80=99s at an awkward height for that and that=E2=80=99ll be =
tricky.
Thanks for your input,
Simon
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Since you are doing it the right way, that is, a few turns at each time =
on each bolt, then it doesn't matter if you go criss-cross or 1,2 3. 4 =
etc. It's not like a wheel that must be centered using special tapered =
nuts. A clutch cover is a big spring. It does not have to be "centered" =
.... just clamped down uniformly. =20
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On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 1:57 AM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com =
I=E2=80=99ve been doing it as one does a road wheel=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12 =
o=E2=80=99clock, 6 o=E2=80=99clock , 9 o=E2=80=99clock, 3 =
o=E2=80=99clock etcetc. Progressively, round and round about one turn at =
a time. Using the progress of the dowels as a reference.
Are you suggesting to, say, start at 12 then to 1, to 2 etcetc? =
Progressively around the flywheel??
An interesting difference. I could start at the area from which =
=E2=80=93 I think =E2=80=93 the plate moves slightly off =
centre=E2=80=A6.
Simon
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Sent: 28 September 2021 02:12
simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch query
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When you tighten the cover bolts are you doing it progressively? That =
is, tighten each one a bit at a time as you move around the bolt circle? =
That's the way to do it.=20
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On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:56 PM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com =
Richard,
Hi. Thanks for this.
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You can present the clutch and cover to the flywheel using the plastic =
tool. Tighten the cover just enough to hold the disc....... remove the =
plastic tool ......then insert the metal input shaft, loosen the bolt, =
finish the alignment and tighten the bolts.=20
* Yes, I did work that out. And put it into practise. I reckon that I =
was almost there when one of the three little springs in the centre of =
the housing sprang out. So I had to take it all out and start again. No =
worry as I=E2=80=99m getting a lot of practise.
* One thing=E2=80=A6..I get it centralized when it=E2=80=99s all loose =
but, as I tighten the bolts, opposite after opposite, it seems to move =
off centre by about 2mm. Always to the same place. It=E2=80=99s a =
mystery as I=E2=80=99d guess I get it pretty tight before it starts to =
move. ie, it moves when it shouldn=E2=80=99t be able to. Or does it? =
Maybe the plate is staying still but the centre of the housing shifts as =
the springs tighten up.
* I=E2=80=99ve the car up on ramps so can sit on the floor with my head =
sticking up where the gearbox would sit. PITA getting in and out, but =
effective. See pic.
Another aid is to put an old fan belt around the back the transmission. =
One of you can then easily lift or lower the back end of the =
transmission to make things line up.
* I use an old heavy lifting sling which achieves the same thing
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When I do it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder head =
between it and the firewall. Because the engine is well balanced on its =
motor mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall. It will do =
no damage. The engine in this position is well suited to receive the =
transmission.
* I=E2=80=99ve got a piece of scaffolding plank under the sump. About =
12=E2=80=9D by 8=E2=80=9D by 2.5=E2=80=9D. I will be paying huge =
attention to the relative levels of engine and gearbox.
I then use the floor jack to get the front of the transmision to the =
right level. Then you can guide the tranny forward using the fan belt to =
raise or lower the rear of the transmission. Make sure the =
transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as needed =
to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up. I have used this =
method many times with success doing it all by myself. Take your time =
and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let the weight =
of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch. Use the floor =
jact to support the weight of the transmission at all times.=20
* I will. For sure.
Thanks again,
Simon
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>OK Richard, I get that. =
I=E2=80=99ve been over zealous but no harm.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I do =
confess to, perhaps, being overly obsessed with =
=E2=80=9Ccentring=E2=80=9D. I=E2=80=99ve been sitting on the cold garage =
floor with my head, at a most uncomfortable height, where the gearbox =
would sit. I=E2=80=99ve been lining it all up by eye. Hard to =
explain=E2=80=A6..stick the black nylon thing in and try to centre it, =
by eye, within the circle at the centre of the =E2=80=9Cplate =E2=80=93 =
release lever=E2=80=9D (Thing held in by three metal clips). Idea being =
to keep the circumference of the nylon equidistant all the way round =
with the plate=E2=80=99s centre. If you see what I =
mean.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What, I think, was happening was =
that the plate would move slightly off centre as the bolts were =
tightened up. One time, I got them precisely equidistant, but the shaft =
would not go in and out. I=E2=80=99ve reverted to my previous method =
which was to tighten up the bolts, little by little, whilst constantly =
checking the shaft for perfect in/out movement.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>By that =
method, at least, it=E2=80=99s perfectly aligned and I just await =
another pair of hands. Tomorrow, maybe.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I shall =
support it underneath if I can. Hopefully with a trolley jack. =
It=E2=80=99s at an awkward height for that and that=E2=80=99ll be =
tricky.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thanks for your =
input,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Since =
you are doing it the right way, that is, a few turns at each time on =
each bolt, then it doesn't matter if you go criss-cross or 1,2 3. 4 =
etc. It's not like a wheel that must be centered using special =
tapered nuts. A clutch cover is a big spring. It does not have to be =
"centered" .... just clamped down uniformly. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 1:57 AM <<a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I=E2=80=99ve=
been doing it as one does a road wheel=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.12 =
o=E2=80=99clock, 6 o=E2=80=99clock , 9 o=E2=80=99clock, 3 =
o=E2=80=99clock etcetc. Progressively, round and round about one turn at =
a time. Using the progress of the dowels as a =
reference.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Are you =
suggesting to, say, start at 12 then to 1, to 2 etcetc? Progressively =
around the flywheel??<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>An =
interesting difference. I could start at the area from which =E2=80=93 I =
think =E2=80=93 the plate moves slightly off =
centre=E2=80=A6.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Simon<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> richard mayor =
<</span><a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>boyracer466@gmail.com</span></a><span lang=3DEN-US>> =
<br><b>Sent:</b> 28 September 2021 02:12<br><b>To:</b> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
lang=3DEN-US>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</span></a><span =
lang=3DEN-US><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fwd: New Clutch =
query</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When you =
tighten the cover bolts are you doing it progressively? That is, =
tighten each one a bit at a time as you move around the bolt =
circle? That's the way to do it. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, Sep =
27, 2021 at 1:56 PM <<a =
href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm =
0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
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rgb(204,204,204)'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Richard,<o:p=
></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi. Thanks =
for this.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You can =
present the clutch and cover to the flywheel using the plastic =
tool. Tighten the cover just enough to hold the disc....... remove =
the plastic tool ......then insert the metal input shaft, loosen the =
bolt, finish the alignment and tighten the bolts. =
<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><ul type=3Ddisc><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>Yes, I did work that out. And put =
it into practise. I reckon that I was almost there when one of the three =
little springs in the centre of the housing sprang out. So I had to take =
it all out and start again. No worry as I=E2=80=99m getting a lot of =
practise.<o:p></o:p></li><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>One thing=E2=80=A6..I get it =
centralized when it=E2=80=99s all loose but, as I tighten the bolts, =
opposite after opposite, it seems to move off centre by about 2mm. =
Always to the same place. It=E2=80=99s a mystery as I=E2=80=99d guess I =
get it pretty tight before it starts to move. ie, it moves when it =
shouldn=E2=80=99t be able to. Or does it? Maybe the plate is staying =
still but the centre of the housing shifts as the springs tighten =
up.<o:p></o:p></li><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l5 level1 lfo3'>I=E2=80=99ve the car up on ramps =
so can sit on the floor with my head sticking up where the gearbox would =
sit. PITA getting in and out, but effective. See =
pic.<o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Another aid =
is to put an old fan belt around the back the transmission. One of you =
can then easily lift or lower the back end of the transmission to make =
things line up.<o:p></o:p></p><ul type=3Ddisc><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l0 level1 lfo6'>I use an old heavy lifting sling =
which achieves the same thing<o:p></o:p></li></ul></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When I do =
it, I place a piece of 2x4 at the back of the cylinder head between it =
and the firewall. Because the engine is well balanced on its motor =
mounts it does not put much pressure on the firewall. It will do =
no damage. The engine in this position is well suited to receive =
the transmission.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph><span style=3D'font-family:Wingdings'>=C3=98</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif'> </span>I=E2=80=99ve got a piece of =
scaffolding plank under the sump. About 12=E2=80=9D by 8=E2=80=9D by =
2.5=E2=80=9D. I will be paying huge attention to the relative levels of =
engine and gearbox.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> I =
then use the floor jack to get the front of the transmision to the right =
level. Then you can guide the tranny forward using the fan belt to raise =
or lower the rear of the transmission. Make sure the =
transmission is in gear so you can turn the rear output flange as needed =
to get the clutch and input shaft splines to line up. I have used =
this method many times with success doing it all by myself. Take =
your time and with a bit of finesse it should slide right in. Never let =
the weight of the transmission hang on the input shaft and clutch. =
Use the floor jact to support the weight of the transmission at all =
times. <o:p></o:p></p><ul type=3Ddisc><li =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph style=3D'mso-list:l4 level1 lfo9'>I will. For =
sure.<o:p></o:p></li></ul><p =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph>Thanks again,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3Dgmail-m6516938848981097534gmail-m7184340184691913754msolistparagr=
aph>Simon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p><=
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