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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vapor lock gas
From: David P via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 13:55:09 -0600
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...which begs the question of how many owners run their engines with too 
much ignition advance. Do you know and when was the last time the 
distributor was lubed? Asking for a friend...  Note: Most Lucas 
distributors start advancing at 750 RPM, so if the initial is not set 
there or is above your total may exceed the allowable ... dp

On 5/11/2021 1:00 PM, BJ8Healeys wrote:
> Nathan, I'm a little bit late with my response, so I'll just direct it 
> to you.
> My two cents' worth:
>
> When I and my traveling companions were returning from Conclave 2008 
> in San Diego and we got to Missouri, we discovered that the highest 
> octane available there was 91.  After filling up with that, both BJ8s 
> missed and knocked and chugged until we got into Tennessee and 
> refilled with 93 octane.
>
> Recently, a BJ8 owner called me to say he was in the area (300 miles 
> from home) and his engine had begun to "click" under acceleration.  He 
> thought it was a timing problem and wanted me to check that.  He 
> mentioned that he had fueled up with non-ethanol. Around here, some 
> stations advertise "non-ethanol" but they neglect to say the octane 
> was dropped from 93 (with ethanol) to 91 (without).  I suggested that 
> he forget about non-ethanol and go with 93. After that, during his 
> return home, he had no more "clicking" problems.
>
> Ethanol-laced gas has its own issues (as you might remember from my 
> Black Hills narrative, I had some aggravating stumbling and missing as 
> I left home, due to the bad ethanol that had been in the tank too 
> long), especially if the car isn't used much; but as long as I stick 
> with 93 octane, at least the engine runs as it should.
>
> Cheers!
> Steve
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> From: "N.S. Bennett"
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Cc:
> Sent: Sunday May 9 2021 2:39:24PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vapor lock gas
>
> Thanks for the link to the MV article on ethanol and vapor lock. It 
> was a good read.
>
> Although I'm certain this has been debated (many times) before, what's 
> the general consensus on octane rating when refueling our cars?
>
> I've always used the highest.i can get. But reading that article has 
> once again made me question my practice.
>
> Interested in the list's thoughts...
>
> Cheers!
> Nathan
> '66 BJ8
>
>
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    <p>...which begs the question of how many owners run their engines
      with too much ignition advance. Do you know and when was the last
      time the distributor was lubed? Asking for a friend...  Note: Most
      Lucas distributors start advancing at 750 RPM, so if the initial
      is not set there or is above your total may exceed the allowable
      ... dp<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/11/2021 1:00 PM, BJ8Healeys wrote:<br>
    </div>
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      cite="mid:4fad65630822d9e1656c85732d00d2ebdd35bc16@webmail">
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      <div>Nathan, I'm a little bit late with my response, so I'll just
        direct it to you.</div>
      <div><span style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;
          font-size: 13.5pt;">My two cents' worth:</span></div>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:normal"><span
          style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;
          font-size: 13.5pt;">When I and my traveling companions were
          returning from Conclave 2008 in San Diego and we got to
          Missouri, we discovered
          that the highest octane available there was 91.  After filling
          up with
          that, both BJ8s missed and knocked and chugged until we got
          into Tennessee and
          refilled with 93 octane.</span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:normal"><span
          style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;
          font-size: 13.5pt;">Recently, a BJ8 owner called me to say he
          was in
          the area (300 miles from home) and his engine had begun to
          "click"
          under acceleration.  He thought it was a timing problem and
          wanted me to
          check that.  He mentioned that he had fueled up with
          non-ethanol. 
          Around here, some stations advertise "non-ethanol" but they
          neglect
          to say the octane was dropped from 93 (with ethanol) to 91
          (without).  I
          suggested that he forget about non-ethanol and go with 93. 
          After that, during
          his return home, he had no more "clicking" problems.</span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:normal"><span
          style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;
          font-size: 13.5pt;">Ethanol-laced gas has its own issues (as
          you might remember from my Black Hills narrative, I had some
          aggravating stumbling and missing as I left home, due to the
          bad ethanol that had been in the tank too long), especially
          if the car isn't used much; but as long as I stick with 93
          octane, at least the
          engine runs as it should.</span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:normal"><span
          style="font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;, serif;
          font-size: 13.5pt;">Cheers!<br>
          Steve</span></p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0in;line-height:normal"><br>
      </p>
      <br>
      <p>-----------------------------------------</p>
      From: "N.S. Bennett"<br>
      To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
      Cc:<br>
      Sent: Sunday May 9 2021 2:39:24PM<br>
      Subject: Re: [Healeys] Vapor lock gas<br>
      <br>
      <div>Thanks for the link to the MV article on ethanol and vapor
        lock. It was a good read.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Although I'm certain this has been debated (many times)
          before, what's the general consensus on octane rating when
          refueling our cars?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I've always used the highest.i can get. But reading that
          article has once again made me question my practice.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Interested in the list's thoughts...</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Cheers!</div>
        <div>Nathan</div>
        <div>'66 BJ8</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
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