Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection

[Steve Thomton via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>]

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 Gary,Yes, I think the carb access panel is one of the most practical modif=
ications you can make on a Healey.=C2=A0 It just makes all that stuff on th=
e driver's side so much more accessible!.. it is a night and day difference=
!=C2=A0=C2=A0Steve=C2=A0
    On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 09:13:53 AM MST, <warthodson@aol.com> =
wrote: =20
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 Steve,I am so glad I installed the carb access panel on my car. It is incr=
edibly practical. I also installed one on the 100 I am currently working on=
.=C2=A0Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Thomton <scthomton@yahoo.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>; healeyguy@aol.com <hea=
leyguy@aol.com>; simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com>; linwoodrose@mac.com <linwoodrose@mac.com>; warthodson@aol.com =
<warthodson@aol.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2021 10:03 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection

 Gary,The front fenders are still steel.=C2=A0 I took a rubbing from Pat Mo=
ss's car when I was in England many years ago... that's that pattern I gave=
 Brad to duplicate... it's the same one I used for my Works Rally Tribute c=
ar. The carb. access panel is a shameless duplicate of Lin Rose's panel.=C2=
=A0 It is similar to the Works carb. access panels, but executed a bit more=
 elegantly than Works panel.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Steve    On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 07:03:51 AM MST, <warthodson@aol.co=
m> wrote: =20
=20
 Steve,It is good to hear from you again. Your project is looking & soundin=
g great. You are very ambitious & your workmanship is flawless. Are those a=
luminum front fenders on the body?=C2=A0Thanks for the description & photos=
.Gary Hodson

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Thomton <scthomton@yahoo.com>
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>; healeyguy@aol.com <hea=
leyguy@aol.com>; simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com>; warthodson@aol.com <warthodson@aol.com>; Linwood H Rose <linwo=
odrose@mac.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2021 7:06 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection

 Gentlemen,My friend Lin Rose just gave me a heads-up that my old EFI syste=
m was being discussed.
That car, 1963 AH Works Rally Tribute, ran great and is now living in Austr=
alia.=C2=A0 The new owner has had it on 3 continents and roughly 14 countri=
es... still running well last I heard.=C2=A0 And, yes, on that build I did =
as much as I could to hide all the EFI stuff.
I'm working on a "new" restoration now... another 1963 BJ7.=C2=A0 This one =
will also be EFI.=C2=A0 But, and some may have issue with this, I've decide=
d to take the EFI to the next level.=C2=A0 To do that I needed to accept th=
at it would look higher tech than the last one.=C2=A0 So, this will definit=
ely look like a EFI car.=C2=A0 I'm hoping to maximize the overall EFI aspec=
t of this engine... meaning improved efficiency and power.=C2=A0 I'll enclo=
se a few images.=C2=A0 I started with Weber aluminum castings, which were h=
eavily massaged with 6 injector bungs, fuel rail mountings, custom mounting=
 brackets for plenum, port matched to the heads and a custom ("bespoke" in =
English terms) plenum with a single throttle body... to hit the high points=
.=C2=A0 The overall engine is more aggressive than the last one with the he=
ad extensively worked over by a AH head Rockstar, Hap Waldrop in South Caro=
lina, hotter cam custom cut for the engine by Dema Elgin, headers and a bun=
ch of other details.=C2=A0 As I said, this may not be for everyone, but I'm=
 excited about the project.=C2=A0 The engine is together and running with t=
he 3rd, and final, iteration of the manifold.=C2=A0 It is patiently waiting=
 on a stand in my shop for the receiving car to be ready..=C2=A0 Unfortunat=
ely, the car that it will go in is quite a ways from done.=C2=A0 I had hope=
d to have it on the road this summer, but that's looking like a stretch.
Oh and this will look more like the Sebring Healey's (yes, Gary, more like =
yours) than a rally car.=C2=A0=C2=A0
That's for the codos Gary, I hope I can live up to your expectations this t=
ime around!
Feel free to ask questions.=C2=A0
Steve    On Monday, February 15, 2021, 04:53:17 PM MST, warthodson--- via H=
ealeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 Yes, Steve's FI system & his workmanship is outstanding. He has several Yo=
uTube videos showing his system.=C2=A0Gary Hodson

-----Original Message-----
From: Gil Rockwell via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
To: healeyguy@aol.com; simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2021 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection

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ellow by the name of Steve Thomton did this a few or more years back, looke=
d pretty decent.=C2=A0 I have attached the document he created that explain=
s the setup.I haven=E2=80=99t heard anything from him in quite a while.=C2=
=A0 As I recall it used GM injectors and the ECU from GM, but I haven=E2=80=
=99t re-read the doc to confirm.=C2=A0  =C2=A0Gil61 BT7 =C2=A0From: Healeys=
 [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of healeyguy--- via Heal=
eys
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2021 6:35 PM
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Injection =C2=A0More than a decade ago, during =
several of the USA West Coast meets that we attended, there was a fellow th=
at had developed a fuel injection system that basically looked like a stock=
 SU carb setup. Over the years I have lost the contact info but it was slic=
k.=C2=A0 The injectors and plumbing were mounted out of sight, unless you h=
appened to be under the car and performed nicely. Any one have any more inf=
o on this fellow or his work?=C2=A0Perry




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data-setdir=3D"false">Yes, I think the carb access panel is one of the most=
 practical modifications you can make on a Healey.&nbsp; It just makes all =
that stuff on the driver's side so much more accessible!.. it is a night an=
d day difference!&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">S=
teve&nbsp;</div><div><br></div>
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<div>I am so glad I installed the carb access panel on my car. It is incred=
ibly practical. I also installed one on the 100 I am currently working on.&=
nbsp;</div>

<div>Gary<br clear=3D"none">
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From: Steve Thomton &lt;scthomton@yahoo.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;; healeyguy@aol.co=
m &lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;; simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com &lt;simon.la=
chlan@alexarevel.plus.com&gt;; linwoodrose@mac.com &lt;linwoodrose@mac.com&=
gt;; warthodson@aol.com &lt;warthodson@aol.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The front fenders are still steel.&nbsp; I took a rubbing =
from Pat Moss's car when I was in England many years ago... that's that pat=
tern I gave Brad to duplicate... it's the same one I used for my Works Rall=
y Tribute car. The carb. access panel is a shameless duplicate of Lin Rose'=
s panel.&nbsp; It is similar to the Works carb. access panels, but executed=
 a bit more elegantly than Works panel.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>

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<div>It is good to hear from you again. Your project is looking &amp; sound=
ing great. You are very ambitious &amp; your workmanship is flawless. Are t=
hose aluminum front fenders on the body?&nbsp;</div>



<div>Thanks for the description &amp; photos.</div>



<div>Gary Hodson<br clear=3D"none">
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From: Steve Thomton &lt;scthomton@yahoo.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;; healeyguy@aol.co=
m &lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;; simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com &lt;simon.la=
chlan@alexarevel.plus.com&gt;; warthodson@aol.com &lt;warthodson@aol.com&gt=
;; Linwood H Rose &lt;linwoodrose@mac.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2021 7:06 pm<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Gentlemen,</div>



<div dir=3D"ltr">My friend Lin Rose just gave me a heads-up that my old EFI=
 system was being discussed.</div>



<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>



<div dir=3D"ltr">That car, 1963 AH Works Rally Tribute, ran great and is no=
w living in Australia.&nbsp; The new owner has had it on 3 continents and r=
oughly 14 countries... still running well last I heard.&nbsp; And, yes, on =
that build I did as much as I could to hide all the EFI stuff.</div>



<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>



<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm working on a "new" restoration now... another 1963 BJ7=
.&nbsp; This one will also be EFI.&nbsp; But, and some may have issue with =
this, I've decided to take the EFI to the next level.&nbsp; To do that I ne=
eded to accept that it would look higher tech than the last one.&nbsp; So, =
this will definitely look like a EFI car.&nbsp; I'm hoping to maximize the =
overall EFI aspect of this engine... meaning improved efficiency and power.=
&nbsp; I'll enclose a few images.&nbsp; I started with Weber aluminum casti=
ngs, which were heavily massaged with 6 injector bungs, fuel rail mountings=
, custom mounting brackets for plenum, port matched to the heads and a cust=
om ("bespoke" in English terms) plenum with a single throttle body... to hi=
t the high points.&nbsp; The overall engine is more aggressive than the las=
t one with the head extensively worked over by a AH head Rockstar, Hap Wald=
rop in South Carolina, hotter cam custom cut for the engine by Dema Elgin, =
headers and a bunch of other details.&nbsp; As I said, this may not be for =
everyone, but I'm excited about the project.&nbsp; The engine is together a=
nd running with the 3rd, and final, iteration of the manifold.&nbsp; It is =
patiently waiting on a stand in my shop for the receiving car to be ready..=
&nbsp; Unfortunately, the car that it will go in is quite a ways from done.=
&nbsp; I had hoped to have it on the road this summer, but that's looking l=
ike a stretch.</div>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">Oh and this will look more like the Sebring Healey's (yes,=
 Gary, more like yours) than a rally car.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>



<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div>



<div dir=3D"ltr">That's for the codos Gary, I hope I can live up to your ex=
pectations this time around!</div>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">Feel free to ask questions.&nbsp;</div>



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s FI system &amp; his workmanship is outstanding. He has several YouTube vi=
deos showing his system.&nbsp;


<div>Gary Hodson<br clear=3D"none">
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To: healeyguy@aol.com; simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none">
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<div class=3D"yiv5552778218MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
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:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div>





<div class=3D"yiv5552778218MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D;">A fellow by the name of Steve Thomton did this a few or more yea=
rs back, looked pretty decent.&nbsp; I have attached the document he create=
d that explains the setup.</span></div>





<div class=3D"yiv5552778218MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
:#1F497D;">I haven=E2=80=99t heard anything from him in quite a while.&nbsp=
; As I recall it used GM injectors and the ECU from GM, but I haven=E2=80=
=99t re-read the doc to confirm.&nbsp; </span></div>





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<div class=3D"yiv5552778218MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
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<div class=3D"yiv5552778218MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color=
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