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Hank=20
Looks a bit like the white ants got into the firewall panel The rocker =
panel also looks as though it needs replacement
Memories
Graeme M
( BJ8 )
Affectionely known as the Fred Flinstone Car
From: gradea1@charter.net=20
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 6:07 AM
To: 'Bob Spidell'=20
Cc: 'healeys@autox.team.net'=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos and mesothelioma
You can, for sure, bet that the guys who cut and applied all those =
asbestos panels to our Healeys are long gone. I found the best =
substitute for those hairy items is 5/16" HardiPlank soffit =
material-which also should be used carefully when cutting; using a mask =
and gloves and eye protection as well-but it does not flake off and =
looks original.=20
I lost two brother-in-laws, who were both in the Navy, to that...working =
in the boiler room. There is a super fund to pay off the surviving =
families, but wives of the victims could get it just doing the laundry! =
Hank
-----------------------------------------
From: "Bob Spidell"=20
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Cc:=20
Sent: Thursday January 14 2021 10:02:18AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
Steve McQueen (the actor) died of mesothelioma. Urban legend says he =
contracted it from working in a brake shop--Healey content: I believe he =
campaigned a Sprite for a while--but it's more likely he got it in the =
Navy. True to character, he was a 'bad boy' and for punishment was =
assigned to clean up parts of the ships that were insulated with =
asbestos. It wasn't an intentional death sentence; it was before the =
dangers of asbestos were widely known.
I caught a news item years ago about a city in Russia that got its =
entire revenue from a nearby asbestos mine. The city is mostly abandoned =
now, for good reason, but a few stragglers stuck aroun. One was an =
octogenarian who had worked in the mine most of his life but never got =
sick from it. Do they have lotteries in Russia? If so, he should buy a =
ticket.
On 1/14/2021 8:42 AM, m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca wrote:
I believe it is a bit more than just =E2=80=9Cdust=E2=80=9D as if you =
were cutting it. Asbestos is fiberous and the fibres are composed of =
microscopic components that will shed with any abrasion, even simple =
handling. The microscopic fibrils become airborne and are easily =
inhaled. They can also adhere to your skin and clothing and be =
transferred later, after the job is finished. I am no expert, but =
suspect a short, once-in-a-lifetime exposure are probably not a risk, =
but why take even a small risk when exposure is easily prevented.
What worries me is when I look back to when I was a kid working in a =
gas station in the 60s and when the mechanics did a brake job, the first =
thing they did after removing the brake drums was take an air hose and =
blow the brake dust off the shoes and backing plate etc. Of course =
brake material had asbestos fibres in it back then and these clouds of =
black asbestos-filled dust would fill the shop for us all to enjoy.
Cheers, Mirek
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jean Caron
Sent: January 14, 2021 11:16 AM
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com; 'Perry Small' =
<healeyguy@aol.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
I have always been told that it is the dust of asbestos that is =
dangerous, not the board itself. I recall many years ago helping a =
friend with these on his Austin-Healey and he was totally afraid of even =
removing these panels, he was wearing a mask, and then a shield and =
gloves, that=E2=80=99s even before they had these =
=E2=80=9Chazmat=E2=80=9D suits. Meanwhile he smoked a pack to a pack and =
half of cigarettes daily which eventually and unfortunately took his =
life.
Jean
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From: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Sent: January 14, 2021 8:47 AM
To: 'Perry Small'
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
Thank you to everyone regarding the sheet.
I gave it a gentle pry, per Perry's advice, and then one rather less =
gentle.
It just popped off. Intact and without cracking or breaking.
I wonder if it is asbestos. It looked to be in really good condition, =
but it
was there when I bought the car back in '96.
Anyhow, I was able to easily put the slide's 3 T-nuts in and reinstall =
the
sheet. All suitably masked of course.
Simon
-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Small <healeyguy@aol.com>
Sent: 11 January 2021 19:11
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: asbestos lookalike insulation sheet
Simon
Notice the square blocks attached to the big sheet. They have been =
known to
bond themselves to the bottom of the floor pan. Gentle pry them loose.
Perry
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<DIV>Hank </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Looks a bit like the white ants got into the firewall panel The =
rocker=20
panel also looks as though it needs replacement</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Memories</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
#000000">Graeme=20
M</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: #000000">( =
BJ8 )</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial'; COLOR: =
#000000">Affectionely=20
known as the Fred Flinstone Car<BR></DIV>
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style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dgradea1@charter.net>gradea1@charter.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 15, 2021 6:07 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dbspidell@comcast.net>'Bob Spidell'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net>'healeys@autox.team.net'</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] asbestos and =
mesothelioma</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>You=20
can, for sure, bet that the guys who cut and applied all those asbestos =
panels=20
to our Healeys are long gone. I found the best substitute for those =
hairy items=20
is 5/16" HardiPlank soffit material-which also should be used carefully =
when=20
cutting; using a mask and gloves and eye protection as well-but it does =
not=20
flake off and looks original.=20
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I lost two brother-in-laws, who were both in the Navy, to =
that...working in=20
the boiler room. There is a super fund to pay off the surviving =
families, but=20
wives of the victims could get it just doing the laundry! Hank<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dreply-new-signature></DIV>
<P>-----------------------------------------</P>From: "Bob Spidell" =
<BSPIDELL=20
@COMCAST.NET><BR>To: healeys@autox.team.net<BR>Cc: <BR>Sent: Thursday =
January 14=20
2021 10:02:18AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation=20
sheet<BR><BR>Steve McQueen (the actor) died of mesothelioma. Urban =
legend says=20
he contracted it from working in a brake shop--Healey content: I believe =
he=20
campaigned a Sprite for a while--but it's more likely he got it in the =
Navy.=20
True to character, he was a 'bad boy' and for punishment was assigned to =
clean=20
up parts of the ships that were insulated with asbestos. It wasn't an=20
intentional death sentence; it was before the dangers of asbestos were =
widely=20
known.<BR><BR>I caught a news item years ago about a city in Russia that =
got its=20
entire revenue from a nearby asbestos mine. The city is mostly abandoned =
now,=20
for good reason, but a few stragglers stuck aroun. One was an =
octogenarian who=20
had worked in the mine most of his life but never got sick from it. Do =
they have=20
lotteries in Russia? If so, he should buy a ticket.<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dmoz-cite-prefix>On 1/14/2021 8:42 AM, <A=20
class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated>m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</A> =
wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV class=3DWordSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN>I believe it is a bit more than just =
=E2=80=9Cdust=E2=80=9D as if you=20
were cutting it. Asbestos is fiberous and the fibres are =
composed of=20
microscopic components that will shed with any abrasion, even simple=20
handling. The microscopic fibrils become airborne and are easily =
inhaled. They can also adhere to your skin and clothing and be=20
transferred later, after the job is finished. I am no expert, =
but=20
suspect a short, once-in-a-lifetime exposure are probably not a risk, =
but why=20
take even a small risk when exposure is easily prevented.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN>What worries me is when I look back to when =
I was a=20
kid working in a gas station in the 60s and when the mechanics did a =
brake=20
job, the first thing they did after removing the brake drums was take =
an air=20
hose and blow the brake dust off the shoes and backing plate =
etc. Of=20
course brake material had asbestos fibres in it back then and these =
clouds of=20
black asbestos-filled dust would fill the shop for us all to =
enjoy.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN>Cheers, Mirek</SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN></SPAN> </P>
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style=3D"BORDER-TOP: #e1e1e1 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; =
BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; =
PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm">
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN lang=3Den-us>From:</SPAN></B> <SPAN=20
lang=3Den-us>Healeys <A=20
=
class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></A> =
<B>On=20
Behalf Of</B> Jean Caron<BR><B>Sent:</B> January 14, 2021 11:16=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
=
class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</A>; =
'Perry=20
Small' <A=20
=
class=3Dmoz-txt-link-rfc2396E><healeyguy@aol.com></A><BR><B>Cc:</B>=
<A=20
=
class=3Dmoz-txt-link-abbreviated>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Subject=
:</B>=20
Re: [Healeys] asbestos lookalike insulation =
sheet</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>I have always been told that it is the dust of =
asbestos=20
that is dangerous, not the board itself. I recall many years ago =
helping a=20
friend with these on his Austin-Healey and he was totally afraid of =
even=20
removing these panels, he was wearing a mask, and then a shield and =
gloves,=20
that=E2=80=99s even before they had these =E2=80=9Chazmat=E2=80=9D =
suits. Meanwhile he smoked a pack=20
to a pack and half of cigarettes daily which eventually and =
unfortunately took=20
his life.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Jean</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal> </P>
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Windows=20
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<DIV=20
style=3D"BORDER-TOP: #e1e1e1 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; =
BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0cm; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; =
PADDING-LEFT: 0cm; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0cm">
<P class=3DMsoNormal><B>From:</B>=20
<A>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</A><BR><B>Sent:</B> January 14, =
2021 8:47=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A>'Perry Small'</A><BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
<A>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] =
asbestos=20
lookalike insulation sheet</P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Thank you to =
everyone regarding=20
the sheet.<BR>I gave it a gentle pry, per Perry's advice, and then one =
rather=20
less gentle.<BR>It just popped off. Intact and without cracking or=20
breaking.<BR>I wonder if it is asbestos. It looked to be in really =
good=20
condition, but it<BR>was there when I bought the car back in =
'96.<BR>Anyhow, I=20
was able to easily put the slide's 3 T-nuts in and reinstall =
the<BR>sheet. All=20
suitably masked of course.<BR>Simon<BR><BR>-----Original =
Message-----<BR>From:=20
Perry Small <<A>healeyguy@aol.com</A>><BR>Sent: 11 January 2021=20
19:11<BR>To: <A>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</A><BR>Cc:=20
<A>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR>Subject: asbestos lookalike =
insulation=20
sheet<BR><BR>Simon<BR>Notice the square blocks attached to the big =
sheet. They=20
have been known to<BR>bond themselves to the bottom of the floor pan. =
Gentle=20
pry them=20
loose.<BR>Perry<BR><BR><BR></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BSPIDELL@COMCAST.=
NET></DIV>
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