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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas torch. No Healey....
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2020 07:09:51 +0000
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Don=92t know if it applies in this case, but sometimes a broken fastener is=
 jammed against the end of a tapped hole. In that case just drilling throug=
h the fastener can break it loose. Using a left hand drill bit in this case=
 will sometimes cause the stub to catch the bit and spin out with no damage=
 to the hole.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of sentenac.rw@gma=
il.com <sentenac.rw@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:12 PM
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Gas torch. No Healey....

As Michael said, your best bet for the task you describe is a MIG
welder.  A gas torch will heat up a much larger area than you want,
and it will take some time for the target piece to reach a temperature
that is needed (meanwhile igniting surrounding combustibles).  For an
expert weldor, a TIG welder can produce miracles.  But for the rest of
us a MIG machine can do a lot.

A gas MIG would be best but even a cheaper MIG that used flux core
wire might get the jobs done.  It would be cheaper.

-Roland
who knows that a grinder is an amateur weldor's best  friend

On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:47 -0000, you wrote:

>I should like to buy some form of blow torch, something hot. I=92m looking=
 for
>something hotter than my regular plumbing item and much cheaper and more
>portable than the big set-ups=85with which I=92m barely acquainted=85.MIG,=
 TIG(?)
>and oxy-acetylene rigs with vast bottles on a trolley.
>
>I=92m after something with which to heat up stuck bolts, maybe do a bit of
>light brazing or heavy soldering. Something portable=85..pick it up, click=
,
>use it, switch off & move on.
>
>I=92ve seen one set-up which has two small bottles, one of oxygen the othe=
r of
>=93High power gas mixture AT 3000=94. This latter bottle apparently being =
a 65%
>butane & 25% propylene mix.
>
>As you may have gathered, I know nothing of these matters=85
>
>As a sample of what I=92m looking for, the first task will require a rapid
>heat to solder or braze nuts onto broken off bolts. Rapid because the bolt=
s
>are in the underside of the (previous) seat for my ride-on mower. These
>bolts are surrounded by the foam rubber of which the seat is largely built=
.
>Were I able to extract them without wrecking the seat, I could probably fl=
og
>the seat on eBay for +/-=A375.00 which would largely recoup the cost of a
>torch?? (Parts and labour on ride-ons are ridiculous over here. (UK). For
>example, I used to take my wife=92s Porsche 944S2 to a specialist Porsche
>garage. Not a Main Dealer. His hourly rate was less than that of the local
>garden machinery thieves). As ever, I digress.
>
>So, what should I be looking at? I see MAPP torches, but they don=92t appe=
ar
>to be much better than my plumbing torch=85.? Or are they?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Simon

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<div>Don=92t know if it applies in this case, but sometimes a broken fasten=
er is jammed against the end of a tapped hole. In that case just drilling t=
hrough the fastener can break it loose. Using a left hand drill bit in this=
 case will sometimes cause the stub
 to catch the bit and spin out with no damage to the hole.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Bill Lawrence</div>
<div>BN1 #554</div>
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ounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of sentenac.rw@gmail.com &lt;sentenac.r=
w@gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 1, 2020 5:12 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com &lt;simon.lachlan@alexarevel.p=
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<div class=3D"PlainText">As Michael said, your best bet for the task you de=
scribe is a MIG<br>
welder.&nbsp; A gas torch will heat up a much larger area than you want,<br=
>
and it will take some time for the target piece to reach a temperature<br>
that is needed (meanwhile igniting surrounding combustibles).&nbsp; For an<=
br>
expert weldor, a TIG welder can produce miracles.&nbsp; But for the rest of=
<br>
us a MIG machine can do a lot.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
A gas MIG would be best but even a cheaper MIG that used flux core<br>
wire might get the jobs done.&nbsp; It would be cheaper.<br>
<br>
-Roland<br>
who knows that a grinder is an amateur weldor's best&nbsp; friend<br>
<br>
On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 14:52:47 -0000, you wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;I should like to buy some form of blow torch, something hot. I=92m look=
ing for<br>
&gt;something hotter than my regular plumbing item and much cheaper and mor=
e<br>
&gt;portable than the big set-ups=85with which I=92m barely acquainted=85.M=
IG, TIG(?)<br>
&gt;and oxy-acetylene rigs with vast bottles on a trolley. <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I=92m after something with which to heat up stuck bolts, maybe do a bit=
 of<br>
&gt;light brazing or heavy soldering. Something portable=85..pick it up, cl=
ick,<br>
&gt;use it, switch off &amp; move on. <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;I=92ve seen one set-up which has two small bottles, one of oxygen the o=
ther of<br>
&gt;=93High power gas mixture AT 3000=94. This latter bottle apparently bei=
ng a 65%<br>
&gt;butane &amp; 25% propylene mix.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;As you may have gathered, I know nothing of these matters=85<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;As a sample of what I=92m looking for, the first task will require a ra=
pid<br>
&gt;heat to solder or braze nuts onto broken off bolts. Rapid because the b=
olts<br>
&gt;are in the underside of the (previous) seat for my ride-on mower. These=
<br>
&gt;bolts are surrounded by the foam rubber of which the seat is largely bu=
ilt.<br>
&gt;Were I able to extract them without wrecking the seat, I could probably=
 flog<br>
&gt;the seat on eBay for +/-=A375.00 which would largely recoup the cost of=
 a<br>
&gt;torch?? (Parts and labour on ride-ons are ridiculous over here. (UK). F=
or<br>
&gt;example, I used to take my wife=92s Porsche 944S2 to a specialist Porsc=
he<br>
&gt;garage. Not a Main Dealer. His hourly rate was less than that of the lo=
cal<br>
&gt;garden machinery thieves). As ever, I digress.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;So, what should I be looking at? I see MAPP torches, but they don=92t a=
ppear<br>
&gt;to be much better than my plumbing torch=85.? Or are they?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Thanks,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Simon<br>
<br>
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