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Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s

To: "'richard mayor'" <boyracer466@gmail.com>, "'Roger Grace'" <roggrace@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s
From: Mark Donaldson via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>=20
Sent: Monday, 20 July 2020 6:07 a.m.
To: Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
Cc: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>; healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s

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Are the brass caps vented?  In my earlier post about the various caps I =
had on some sets of HD8s, one of the caps was AUC 8114.  A responder =
pointed out that that cap came on a tri-carb set up. Looking more =
closely I noticed there was no vent hole in that cap. Why?  Because the =
carbs on the tri-carb set up had vents in the dashpots. HD8 dashpots are =
not vented so the cap should be to be vented.

=20

Just to throw the cat in amongst the pigeons, whilst the BJ8 HD8s are =
dustless non-vented =E2=80=93 Jaguar HD8s ARE vented. =20

I have a pair currently sitting on my work bench.  So if Roger has a set =
of those on his car, he should be using non-vented dampers.

=20

Mark

Ardmore, NZ

=20

I'm just guessing, but would happen if a non vented cap is put on an HD8 =
carb?  Would the oil get sucked out of the carb?=20

=20

On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:54 AM Roger Grace via Healeys =

A few years ago as my BJ8 carbs had been so molested over the years by =
numerous PO's bought a pair of new HD8 from Burlein.

They came with brass capped dampers.

For the life of me, cannot see any part numbers on the dampers

I am curious/suspicious as seem to have to top up more frequently than I =
remember with previous SU cars.

At least after every 2 tanks of gas driving time.

Not accurately checked standing time with no driving.

Where does the oil go ? Makes no difference what grade that I use.

Thoughts ?

rg

=20

=20

----- Original Message -----
From: Kees Oudesluijs via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net =
Sent: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 02:17:15 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s

The book is free of charge from Burlen/SU. You just pay the
shipping.

Kees Oudesluijs

Op 2-7-2020 om 01:21 schreef Mark
Donaldson:

Richard and Perry,

Both of my S.U. books show AUC8112 as the only damper for the BJ8

AUC8114 is for the Mk II tri-carb and ALL of the Sprites with the
exception of the Bugeye (S.U. calls it =E2=80=98Frogeye=E2=80=99 as do =
you British listers) which has AUC8103

AUC8115 is found in the HD8s fitted to E-type Jags and the 4 litre =
Jensen 541 from 1960 =E2=80=93 1963.

For you Anoraks out there, my main S.U. book by S.U. is called SPARE =
PARTS AND SPECIFICATION CATALOGUE.  It runs to 179
pages and is spiral bound.

I got it at the Goodwood Revival back in 2015.  It is a very useful =
little handbook.  It has everything you wanted to know about S.U. =
carburettors, but were too afraid to ask.  \uD83D\uDE0A

Mark

Ardmore

NZ

Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 5:25 a.m.
<boyracer466@gmail.com>;
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s

The carbs I have on hand
have the most common, and perhaps the correct piston rod=20
AUC8112.  Also found AUC8114.  My factory 3000/BJ8 parts
book covering the HD8 carbs has conveniently disappeared for
the moment so I can not verify what part the factory called
for.  The weight of the piston body (very small weight at
the end of the damper rod) should not have a bearing on the
operation as it can only move vertically 1/16 inch and is
otherwise fixed in place. I checked the diameter of the
piston body on several and they all appear to be the same.
The diameter would seem to be much more important for proper
carb operation.=20

I had asked the SU
dealer in England for guidance for use of the different
numbered parts but have not heard back, thus this convoluted
email to the list.

P

=20

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986>  for =
Windows 10

=20

Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:34 PM
Subject: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper part #s

=20

>From the various
responses I received it seems that AUC8112 is the correct
damper for the HD8s.  The main difference between the
dampers that I can observe appears to be the size of the
very small weight at the end of the damper rod.=20

=20

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From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com =

=20

Date: Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:10 PM

=20

Subject: HD8 dashpot damper part #s

=20


=20

I have 3 sets of HD8
carburetors all with different dashpot dampers.  AUC8112,
AUC8114 and AUC8115.  What is the correct damper for a BJ8?

=20

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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> richard mayor =
&lt;boyracer466@gmail.com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 20 July 2020 6:07 =
a.m.<br><b>To:</b> Roger Grace &lt;roggrace@telus.net&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
Kees Oudesluijs &lt;coudesluijs@chello.nl&gt;; healeys =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 =
dashpot damper part #s<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Are the brass caps vented?&nbsp; In my earlier post =
about the various caps I had on some sets of HD8s, one of the caps was =
AUC 8114.&nbsp; A responder pointed out that that cap came on a tri-carb =
set up. Looking more closely I noticed there was no vent hole in that =
cap. Why?&nbsp; Because the carbs on the tri-carb set up had vents in =
the dashpots. HD8 dashpots are not vented so the cap should be to be =
vented.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:red'>Just to throw the =
cat in amongst the pigeons, whilst the BJ8 HD8s are dustless non-vented =
=E2=80=93 Jaguar HD8s ARE vented.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:red'>I have a pair =
currently sitting on my work bench.=C2=A0 So if Roger has a set of those =
on his car, he should be using <b>non-vented</b> =
dampers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:red'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:red'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:red'>Ardmore, =
NZ<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I'm just guessing, but would happen if a non vented =
cap is put on an HD8 carb?&nbsp; Would the oil get sucked out of the =
carb? <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 10:54 AM Roger Grace via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>A few years ago as my BJ8 carbs had been so molested =
over the years by numerous PO's bought a pair of new HD8 from =
Burlein.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>They came with =
brass capped dampers.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>For =
the life of me, cannot see any part numbers on the =
dampers<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I am =
curious/suspicious as seem to have to top up more frequently than I =
remember with previous SU cars.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>At least after every 2 tanks of gas driving =
time.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Not accurately =
checked standing time with no driving.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Where does the oil go ? Makes no difference what grade =
that I use.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thoughts =
?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>rg<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>----- Original Message -----<br>From: Kees Oudesluijs =
via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Thu, 02 Jul 2020 =
02:17:15 -0600 (MDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper =
part #s<span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p>The =
book is free of charge from Burlen/SU. You just pay =
the<br>shipping.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Kees Oudesluijs<span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Op 2-7-2020 om 01:21 schreef =
Mark<br>Donaldson:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
Richard and Perry,</span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
Both of my S.U. books show <b>AUC8112</b> as the only damper for the =
BJ8</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
AUC8114</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
 is for the Mk II tri-carb and ALL of the Sprites with the<br>exception =
of the Bugeye (S.U. calls it =E2=80=98Frogeye=E2=80=99 as do you British =
listers) which has <b>AUC8103</b></span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
AUC8115</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
 is found in the HD8s fitted to E-type Jags and the 4 litre Jensen 541 =
from 1960 =E2=80=93 1963.</span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
For you Anoraks out there, my main S.U. book by S.U. is called SPARE =
PARTS AND SPECIFICATION CATALOGUE.&nbsp; It runs to 179<br>pages and is =
spiral bound.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
I got it at the Goodwood Revival back in 2015.&nbsp; It is a very useful =
little handbook. =C2=A0It has everything you wanted to know about S.U. =
carburettors, but were too afraid to ask.&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>\=
uD83D\uDE0A</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-right:36.0pt;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
Mark</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
Ardmore</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>=
NZ</span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Perry <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeyguy@aol.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeyguy@aol.com&gt;</a><br><b>Sent:</b> =
Thursday, 2 July 2020 5:25 a.m.<br><b>To:</b> richard mayor <a =
href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;boyracer466@gmail.com&gt;</a>;<br>healeys <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [Healeys] Fwd: HD8 dashpot damper<span style=3D'color:#1F497D'> =
</span>part #s</span><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>The carbs I have on hand<br>have the most common, and =
perhaps the correct piston rod&nbsp;<br>AUC8112.&nbsp; Also found =
AUC8114.&nbsp; My factory 3000/BJ8 parts<br>book covering the HD8 carbs =
has conveniently disappeared for<br>the moment so I can not verify what =
part the factory called<br>for.&nbsp; The weight of the piston body =
(very small weight at<br>the end of the damper rod) should not have a =
bearing on the<br>operation as it can only move vertically 1/16 inch and =
is<br>otherwise fixed in place. I checked the diameter of the<br>piston =
body on several and they all appear to be the same.<br>The diameter =
would seem to be much more important for proper<br>carb operation. =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>I had asked the SU<br>dealer in England for guidance for =
use of the different<br>numbered parts but have not heard back, thus =
this convoluted<br>email to the list.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>P</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Sent from <a =
href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; =
target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From: </span></b><span lang=3DEN-US><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">richard mayor =
via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, July 1, 2020 12:34 =
PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Fwd: HD8 =
dashpot damper part #s</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From the various<br>responses I received it seems that =
AUC8112 is the correct<br>damper for the HD8s.&nbsp; The main difference =
between the<br>dampers that I can observe appears to be the size of =
the<br>very small weight at the end of the damper rod. =
</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>----------<br>Forwarded message =
---------</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From: <b>richard mayor</b> &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Date: Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 6:10 =
PM</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Subject: HD8 dashpot damper part =
#s</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>To: healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span><o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>I have 3 sets of HD8<br>carburetors all with different =
dashpot dampers.&nbsp; AUC8112,<br>AUC8114 and AUC8115.&nbsp; What is =
the correct damper for a BJ8?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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