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Re: [Healeys] Head Gasket

To: "gradea1@charter.net" <gradea1@charter.net>, Henry G Leach via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, 'Perry Small' <healeyguy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Head Gasket
From: Michael MacLean via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 18:36:36 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: 'healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Even if I figure out which way to put the head gasket on there still is a f=
ew more questions.=C2=A0 The service manual says to torque the head bolts f=
rom 65 - 70 ft lbs.=C2=A0 It does not mention anything about the rocker stu=
ds.=C2=A0 I'm guessing they are torqued to the same specs?=C2=A0 As far as =
coating the gasket I intend to use Wellseal.=C2=A0 And my head was also pre=
viously repaired between 2 and 3 by an old school welder.=C2=A0 The problem=
 was to repair the crack needed a lot of meat ground away from the intake p=
orts of 2 and 3 to do the welding on the inside of the head.=C2=A0 Of coars=
e the head would still work, but I just thought the air flow would be diffe=
rent between the inner and out intake ports.=C2=A0 I had the head pocket po=
rted to even the flow out some.=C2=A0 Who knows, it may all be for nothing =
if it cracks again.=C2=A0 Then I'll spring for an aluminum head.=C2=A0 At l=
east then I will have this gasket and torque thing pretty well sorted out.M=
ike MacLean

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  On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:49 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys<healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:   If there is any doubt as to the sealing capability of t=
he three components, you can spray a light coating of "Copper-Cote" on both=
 sides of the gasket before fitting it to the block. I think the proper tor=
que of the bolts on clean studs, in the correct order, is the most importan=
t thing you can do to insure it does not leak. Cracking is another story-DO=
 NOT LET IT OVER HEAT.
I had my head repaired by Midwest Heads and (knock on wood) its still worki=
ng properly. It had the usual crack between 2-3 from overheating at some ti=
me in its life. Both the block and head were planed as well. Hank, healeyhe=
lper.com=C2=A0

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From: "Perry Small via Healeys"=20
To: "healeys"
Cc:=20
Sent: Sunday April 19 2020 10:01:51AM
Subject: [Healeys] Head Gasket

Not trying to cause any confusion on this topic. The reason the Payen gaske=
t is marked TOP and FRONT is because the gasket WILL fit either way. The lo=
wer photo is two gaskets, one atop the other but one is TOP up and the othe=
r inverted. The holes all line up.
The issue is which side of the gasket had the cylinder crimp, the bent over=
 seal around each cylinder, is up or down. On older copper faced Payen gask=
ets the crimp is against the block or Down. Thus the other side is marked w=
ith the Top and Front markings. Some later Payen head gaskets use a one pie=
ce (separate piece of metal) crimp. After this change the gasket I have loo=
ked at are not marked Top or Front.=20
Perry


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Even if I figure out which way to put the head gasket on there still is a f=
ew more questions.&nbsp; The service manual says to torque the head bolts f=
rom 65 - 70 ft lbs.&nbsp; It does not mention anything about the rocker stu=
ds.&nbsp; I'm guessing they are torqued to the same specs?&nbsp; As far as =
coating the gasket I intend to use Wellseal.&nbsp; And my head was also pre=
viously repaired between 2 and 3 by an old school welder.&nbsp; The problem=
 was to repair the crack needed a lot of meat ground away from the intake p=
orts of 2 and 3 to do the welding on the inside of the head.&nbsp; Of coars=
e the head would still work, but I just thought the air flow would be diffe=
rent between the inner and out intake ports.&nbsp; I had the head pocket po=
rted to even the flow out some.&nbsp; Who knows, it may all be for nothing =
if it cracks again.&nbsp; Then I'll spring for an aluminum head.&nbsp; At l=
east then I will have this gasket and torque thing pretty well sorted out.<=
div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1587321307271">Mike MacLean<br><br><di=
v id=3D"ymail_android_signature"><a id=3D"ymail_android_signature_link" hre=
f=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;c=3DGlobal_Interna=
l_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=3DIntern=
al&amp;af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature">Sent from AT&=
amp;T Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div> <br> <blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0=
 20px 0;"> <div style=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans-serif; color:#6D00F6;"> <=
div>On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 10:49 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys</div><div>&=
lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</div> </div> <div style=3D"padding: 10=
px 0 0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; border-left: 1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div id=
=3D"yiv7198629488"><div>If there is any doubt as to the sealing capability =
of the three components, you can spray a light coating of "Copper-Cote" on =
both sides of the gasket before fitting it to the block. I think the proper=
 torque of the bolts on clean studs, in the correct order, is the most impo=
rtant thing you can do to insure it does not leak. Cracking is another stor=
y-DO NOT LET IT OVER HEAT.<div><br></div><div>I had my head repaired by Mid=
west Heads and (knock on wood) its still working properly. It had the usual=
 crack between 2-3 from overheating at some time in its life. Both the bloc=
k and head were planed as well. Hank, healeyhelper.com&nbsp;</div><div><br>=
<div class=3D"yiv7198629488reply-new-signature"></div><p>------------------=
-----------------------</p>From: "Perry Small via Healeys" <br>To: "healeys=
"<br>Cc: <br>Sent: Sunday April 19 2020 10:01:51AM<br>Subject: [Healeys] He=
ad Gasket<br><br>Not trying to cause any confusion on this topic. The reaso=
n the Payen gasket is marked TOP and FRONT is because the gasket WILL fit e=
ither way. The lower photo is two gaskets, one atop the other but one is TO=
P up and the other inverted. The holes all line up.<br>
The issue is which side of the gasket had the cylinder crimp, the bent over=
 seal around each cylinder, is up or down. On older copper faced Payen gask=
ets the crimp is against the block or Down. Thus the other side is marked w=
ith the Top and Front markings. Some later Payen head gaskets use a one pie=
ce (separate piece of metal) crimp. After this change the gasket I have loo=
ked at are not marked Top or Front. <br>
Perry<br>
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