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Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel

To: Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel
From: Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Patrick,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Mine also did not have the vertical divider. =
It was #598 and all stock. I'll look through some old photos and see if I =
can find some when I had the grill out of the car.=0ASteven Kingsbury=0A=0A=
On October 30, 2019 at 4:50 PM, "Patrick & Caroline Quinn" <p_cquinn@tpg.c=
om.au> wrote:=0A=0A=0AThat's interesting!=0A=0AWonder if the pre-productio=
n cars had anything? The BN3 certainly didn't=0Awhen it I bought it in 197=
4, but there is a lot less room between its=0Aradiator and the grille.=0A=0A=
Thanks=0A=0APatrick Quinn=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: sentenac=
.rw@gmail.com [mailto:sentenac.rw@gmail.com]=0ASent: Thursday, 31 October =
2019 10:38 AM=0ATo: Patrick & Caroline Quinn=0ACc: 'Michael Oritt'; 'Austi=
n Healey'=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel=0A=0AJust a minor addit=
ion: Early BN1s did not have the vertical divider.=0A#724 has no vertical =
divider and no holes in the horizontal part where=0Asuch a divider could b=
e mounted. The horizontal piece is made of=0Aaluminum and is stamped with =
'724' like the bonnet.=0A=0A-Roland=0A=0AOn Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:11:08 +110=
0, you wrote:=0A=0A=0AHello Michael=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AIn all the four-cy=
linder production cars there is a single horizontal and a=0Asingle vertica=
l metal piece that serves the main purpose of ensuring that=0Athe air that=
 comes in through the grille goes through the radiator.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=
=0AThat the vertical piece also prevents being able to see from one wheel=0A=
opening to the other is purely secondary.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHave a lo=
ok at this page from the AH Spares website and it's numbers 68 and=0A69 on=
 the right hand side.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Ahttps://www.ahspares.co.uk/bi=
g-healey/inner-body-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a/=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AThere is=
 no such similar horizontal fitting on the production six-cylinder=0Acars =
so that a lot of the air that comes through the grille escapes below=0Athe=
 radiator and serves no worthwhile purpose.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AHoo Roo=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0APatrick Quinn=0A=0A=0ABlue Mountains, Australia=0A=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com]=0ASent=
: Thursday, 31 October 2019 9:52 AM=0ATo: Patrick & Caroline Quinn=0ACc: R=
obert Begani; Austin Healey=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel=0A=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0APatrick=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AI have never seen anything re a=
 "shovel" either standard or optional to=0A100's=0A=0A=0A=0ACan you expand=
 on this?=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Ai was always of the impression that the purp=
ose of the vertical divider was=0Aesthetic to prevent one's seeing through=
 the opposite wheel opening when a=0Acar was viewed from the side.=0A=0A=0A=
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ABest--Michael Oritt=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Wed, Oct 30, 201=
9, 4:54 PM Patrick & Caroline Quinn=0A<p_cquinn@tpg.com.au> wrote:=0A=0A=0A=
=0AHello=0A=0A=0ASuch a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars inc=
luding a vertical=0Apiece directly behind the centre of the grille.=0A=0A=0A=
During the late 1980s I made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a=0A=
big difference. The Healey Duncan has a similar fitting for channelling th=
e=0Aair upwards and through the radiator.=0A=0A=0AHoo Roo=0A=0A=0APatrick =
Quinn=0ABlue Mountains, Australia=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFro=
m: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert=0AB=
egani=0ASent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM=0ATo: eyera3000@gmail.com;=
 'Healey Email list'=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel=0A=0A=0AThe =
pictures did not have my comments attached,=0A=0A=0A!. Trim the shovel to =
fit the frame.=0A2. Shows the way the it should fit to the frame with the =
flange pointing=0Adown. However, I cut the valve hole wrong and had to fli=
p flop it.=0A3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can install th=
e mounting=0Ascrews to the frame from underneath and remember to get the h=
ole for the=0Aradiator drain valve large enough to install it.=0A4. Painte=
d the same color as the car. Looks good and really funnels the=0Aair=0A=0A=
into the engine compartment so you do not over heat down to 30-40 mph.=0A5=
. Should have been a factory install. I recommend the Shovel baffle for=0A=
all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air flowing through the=0A=
engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the rebuild=0A=
without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine=0Acomp=
artment like a tornado.=0A=0A=0ABob Begani=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message--=
---=0AFrom: Bob Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>=0ASent: Wednesday, October 30,=
 2019 12:05 PM=0ATo: eyera3000@gmail.com; Bob Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com>;=
 Healey Email list=0A<healeys@autox.team.net>=0ASubject: Radiator shovel=0A=
=0A=0AHere are pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from s=
omeone=0Aon the list which I no longer have=0A=0A=0A--=0AThis email has be=
en checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.=0Ahttps://www.avast.co=
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<html><body><div>Patrick,</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Mine also did not have 
the verti=
cal divider. It was #598 and all stock. I'll look through some old photos =
and see if I can find some when I had the grill out of the car.</div><div>=
Steven Kingsbury</div><div><br>On October 30, 2019 at 4:50 PM, "Patrick &a=
mp; Caroline Quinn" &lt;p_cquinn@tpg.com.au&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div><=
blockquote type=3D"cite"><div class=3D"msg-quote"><div class=3D"_stretch">=
<span class=3D"body-text-content">That's interesting!<br><br>Wonder if the=
 pre-production cars had anything? The BN3 certainly didn't<br>when it I b=
ought it in 1974, but there is a lot less room between its<br>radiator and=
 the grille.<br><br>Thanks<br><br>Patrick Quinn<br><br>-----Original Messa=
ge-----<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:sentenac.rw@gmail.com"; data-mce-href=3D=
"mailto:sentenac.rw@gmail.com";>sentenac.rw@gmail.com</a> [mailto:sentenac.=
rw@gmail.com] <br>Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 10:38 AM<br>To: Patrick =
&amp; Caroline Quinn<br>Cc: 'Michael Oritt'; 'Austin Healey'<br>Subject: R=
e: [Healeys] Radiator shovel<br><br>Just a minor addition: Early BN1s did =
not have the vertical divider.<br>#724 has no vertical divider and no hole=
s in the horizontal part where<br>such a divider could be mounted. The hor=
izontal piece is made of<br>aluminum and is stamped with '724' like the bo=
nnet.<br><br>-Roland<br><br>On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 10:11:08 +1100, you wrote:=
<br><br><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Hello Michae=
l</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">In all the four=
-cylinder production cars there is a single horizontal and a</blockquote>s=
ingle vertical metal piece that serves the main purpose of ensuring that<b=
r>the air that comes in through the grille goes through the radiator.<br><=
blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">That the vertical piece also p=
revents being able to see from one wheel</blockquote>opening to the other =
is purely secondary.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-te=
xt"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"=
><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><b=
r></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Have =
a look at this page from the AH Spares website and it's numbers 68 and</bl=
ockquote>69 on the right hand side.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"=
quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quo=
ted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted=
-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pl=
ain-text"><a href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-healey/inner-body-pane=
ls-ibp101-to-ibp286a/" data-mce-href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-hea=
ley/inner-body-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a/">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/big-h=
ealey/inner-body-panels-ibp101-to-ibp286a/</a></blockquote><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"ci=
te" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D"quoted-plain-text">There is no such similar horizontal fitting o=
n the production six-cylinder</blockquote>cars so that a lot of the air th=
at comes through the grille escapes below<br>the radiator and serves no wo=
rthwhile purpose. <br><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text=
"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><=
br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br>=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Hoo Roo=
</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Patrick Quinn</b=
lockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></bloc=
kquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Blue Mountain=
s, Australia</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-t=
ext"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text=
"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><=
br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">From=
: Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com]</blockquote><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 9=
:52 AM</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">T=
o: Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" clas=
s=3D"quoted-plain-text">Cc: Robert Begani; Austin Healey</blockquote><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ra=
diator shovel</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-=
text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-tex=
t"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">=
<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Pat=
rick</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">I have never=
 seen anything re a "shovel" either standard or optional to</blockquote>10=
0's<br><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockqu=
ote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Can you expand o=
n this?</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">=
<br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br=
></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">i was alw=
ays of the impression that the purpose of the vertical divider was</blockq=
uote>esthetic to prevent one's seeing through the opposite wheel opening w=
hen a<br>car was viewed from the side.<br><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"qu=
oted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quote=
d-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-p=
lain-text">Best--Michael Oritt</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=
=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"qu=
oted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quote=
d-plain-text">On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 4:54 PM Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn</=
blockquote>&lt;p_cquinn@tpg.com.au&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" cl=
ass=3D"quoted-plain-text">Hello</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" clas=
s=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text">Such a fitting was standard to the four-cylinder cars =
including a vertical</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted=
-plain-text">piece directly behind the centre of the grille.</blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blo=
ckquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">During the late 1980s I =
made up a similar fitting to the BN3 which made a</blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">big difference. The Healey Dunca=
n has a similar fitting for channelling the</blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">air upwards and through the radiator.</=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Hoo Roo</blo=
ckquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Patrick Quinn</=
blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Blue Moun=
tains, Australia</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pla=
in-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-=
text">-----Original Message-----</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" cla=
ss=3D"quoted-plain-text">From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.=
net] On Behalf Of Robert</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"qu=
oted-plain-text">Begani</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quo=
ted-plain-text">Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2019 3:22 AM</blockquote><block=
quote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">To: <a href=3D"mailto:eyer=
a3000@gmail.com" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";>eyera3000@gm=
ail.com</a>; 'Healey Email list'</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" cla=
ss=3D"quoted-plain-text">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Radiator shovel</blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><=
blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">The pictures did not =
have my comments attached,</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"=
quoted-plain-text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quo=
ted-plain-text">!. Trim the shovel to fit the frame.</blockquote><blockquo=
te type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">2. Shows the way the it shoul=
d fit to the frame with the flange pointing</blockquote><blockquote type=3D=
"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">down. However, I cut the valve hole wro=
ng and had to flip flop it.</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text">3. Note the lip should be pointing down so you can ins=
tall the mounting</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pl=
ain-text">screws to the frame from underneath and remember to get the hole=
 for the</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"=
>radiator drain valve large enough to install it.</blockquote><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">4. Painted the same color as the=
 car. Looks good and really funnels the</blockquote>air<br><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">into the engine compartment so you =
do not over heat down to 30-40 mph.</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D"quoted-plain-text">5. Should have been a factory install. I recom=
mend the Shovel baffle for</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"=
quoted-plain-text">all Healey cars. There never is too much cooling air fl=
owing through the</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-pl=
ain-text">engine compartment. When I was test driving my Healey after the =
rebuild</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">=
without the tunnel, I could feel the air flowing through the engine</block=
quote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">compartment li=
ke a tornado.</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-=
text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-tex=
t">Bob Begani</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-=
text"><br></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-tex=
t">-----Original Message-----</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D=
"quoted-plain-text">From: Bob Begani &lt;rfbegani@gmail.com&gt;</blockquot=
e><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Sent: Wednesday, O=
ctober 30, 2019 12:05 PM</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"qu=
oted-plain-text">To: <a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; data-mce-href=3D=
"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";>eyera3000@gmail.com</a>; Bob Begani &lt;rfbeg=
ani@gmail.com&gt;; Healey Email list</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 class=3D"quoted-plain-text">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</blockquote><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Subject: Radiator shov=
el</blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text"><br><=
/blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">Here are=
 pictures of what I fabricated from the picture I got from someone</blockq=
uote><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"quoted-plain-text">on the list whi=
ch I no longer have</blockquote><br><br>-- <br>This email has been checked=
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