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Re: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga

To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga
From: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2019 02:16:55 +0000
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Thanks for the info Perry. So it would seem that the best setup would be a =
mild steel system from the muffler back for the sound and stainless downpip=
es for the flex.

Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Perry via Heale=
ys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:42 PM
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] Down Pipes - The Final Saga


Listers

As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this exciting subject, I decided to d=
o an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in the parts bin. Both pipes =
are new old stock and have never been on a car.  One is stainless and the o=
ther mild steel. Both have been laying on a shelf in the garage for at leas=
t 9 years.

The test was to measure how much deflection was noted in the flex portion o=
f the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the muffler) is loaded with a =
weight. The upper portion of the pipe was firmly held by the bench vice.

Should have started with something less then 10 pounds but the stainless mo=
ved considerably under that weight.  The mild steel did not budge.

At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movement on the mild steel. I th=
en applied an unspecified force with my hand to the 47 pounds and no moveme=
nt.

My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, once it takes a set, ie, Ge=
ts Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that will fail but it might as=
 well be a piece of regular pipe.

Perry



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Thanks&nbsp;for the info Perry. So it would seem that the best setup would =
be a mild steel system from the muffler back for the sound and stainless do=
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Bill Lawrence</div>
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BN1 #554</div>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Listers</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">As a follow up to my post on 10/18 on this excitin=
g subject, I decided to do an experiment with a couple downpipes I had in t=
he parts bin. Both pipes are new old stock and have never been on a car.&nb=
sp; One is stainless and the other mild
 steel. Both have been laying on a shelf in the garage for at least 9 years=
. </p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">The test was to measure how much deflection was no=
ted in the flex portion of the downpipe when the tip (where it enters the m=
uffler) is loaded with a weight. The upper portion of the pipe was firmly h=
eld by the bench vice.
</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Should have started with something less then 10 po=
unds but the stainless moved considerably under that weight.&nbsp; The mild=
 steel did not budge.</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">At 47 pounds I heard a creaky noise but no movemen=
t on the mild steel. I then applied an unspecified force with my hand to th=
e 47 pounds and no movement.
</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">My conclusion is that the mild steel flex pipe, on=
ce it takes a set, ie, Gets Rusty, does not flex. It is the weak link that =
will fail but it might as well be a piece of regular pipe.</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Perry</p>
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