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Re: [Healeys] moss water pump

To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
Subject: Re: [Healeys] moss water pump
From: Fred Wescoe <fredwescoe@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2019 17:59:41 -0400
Cc: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
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Hi gang,

This is not a shot over Michael's bow in any sense.

I just want to let everyone know that the original water pump contains or
will except Massey Ferguson Water pump internals.

In an emergency, I had the water pump on my 63 BJ7 rebuilt by a John Deere
dealer.  The dealer repair man said "no problem, it's a Massey Ferguson
pump".  It took him less than an hour.  The pump worked flawlessly for many
years.  Try rebuilding your original pump instead of supporting County.
They may also be able to rebuild a County pump properly.  Never hurts to
ask.

If Michael can't rebuild it for you, check with your local tractor repair
place.

Fred
66BJ8

On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:

> I think they=E2=80=99re Indian which is not really a tick in the box!
>
> For interest:-
>
> When I got my kit from Michael I hadn=E2=80=99t told him which pump I had=
, so the
> more usual kit arrived. My error.
>
> I decided to keep that and bought the correct one which I fitted.
>
> I now had the other kit, but no dead pump. A friend gave me several and I
> rebuilt one. So that=E2=80=99s a spare pump now.
>
> Being curious, I looked around on eBay and found that people were selling
> NOS pumps from Westminsters for MUCH less than the NOS Healey ones ever g=
o
> for. Change the pulley and hey presto!
>
> (Being sure to check you=E2=80=99re buying the right pump body!)
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* 07 October 2019 16:27
> *To:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* John Spaur <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>; Ahealey help <
> healeys@autox.team.net>; i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] moss water pump
>
>
>
> Yep;
>
> It was a County, from China...likely the only source.
>
> I had plans to rebuild mine but it broke apart in the process even being
> careful, sort of.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard C
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:14, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <
> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. You really
> need a BIG VICE or a press=E2=80=A6.
>
> I=E2=80=99ve never heard anything better than =E2=80=9Cit=E2=80=99s laste=
d so far=E2=80=9D with reference
> to County pumps. When I was looking at my options and asking around, I
> found most of UK suppliers to be strangely reticent as to the manufacture=
r
> of their pumps. None of them failed a straight =E2=80=9CIs it a County pu=
mp? Yes or
> no!=E2=80=9D, but there was an amusing reluctance=E2=80=A6
>
> Simon
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Collins
> *Sent:* 07 October 2019 14:45
> *To:* John Spaur <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>; i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] moss water pump
>
>
>
> Couple of years ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues others
> had with US sourced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit ok however
> and still works.
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard of KY
>
> BN7 440
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:26, John Spaur <jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
>
> No on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not
> associated with the pump.
>
>
>
> John Spaur
>
> =E2=80=9962 BT7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *i erbs
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] moss water pump
>
>
>
> Howdy all,
>
>  Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 engine from Moss=
?
> There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced my pump as
> preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am still
> chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate for Moss
> and that I would replace the pump on the off chance it is my problem. The
> issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could find my original one and
> rebuild it...
>
> Thanks
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Portland,OR
>
>       _______                                  _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>          (_________________________)
>
>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
>
>
>
> 1967 MGB  [image: Image removed by sender. MG]
>
>
>
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>
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>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi gang,</div><div><br></div><div>Th=
is is not a shot over Michael&#39;s bow in any sense.</div><div><br></div><=
div>I just want to let everyone know that the original water pump contains =
or will except Massey Ferguson Water pump internals. =C2=A0</div><div><br><=
/div><div>In an emergency, I had the water pump on my 63 BJ7 rebuilt by a J=
ohn Deere dealer.=C2=A0 The dealer repair man said &quot;no problem, it&#39=
;s a Massey Ferguson pump&quot;.=C2=A0  It took him less than an hour.=C2=
=A0 The pump worked flawlessly for many years.=C2=A0 Try rebuilding your or=
iginal pump instead of supporting County.=C2=A0 They may also be able to re=
build a County pump properly.=C2=A0 Never hurts to ask.</div><div><br></div=
><div>If Michael can&#39;t rebuild it for you, check with your local tracto=
r repair place.</div><div><br></div><div>Fred</div><div>66BJ8</div></div></=
div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On=
 Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 1:19 PM &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel=
.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:=
1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-st=
yle:solid"><div lang=3D"EN-GB"><div class=3D"gmail-m_1606698086204112766Wor=
dSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I think they=E2=80=99re Indian which is no=
t really a tick in the box!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">F=
or interest:-<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">When I got my k=
it from Michael I hadn=E2=80=99t told him which pump I had, so the more usu=
al kit arrived. My error.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I d=
ecided to keep that and bought the correct one which I fitted.<u></u><u></u=
></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">I now had the other kit, but no dead pump=
. A friend gave me several and I rebuilt one. So that=E2=80=99s a spare pum=
p now.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Being curious, I looke=
d around on eBay and found that people were selling NOS pumps from Westmins=
ters for MUCH less than the NOS Healey ones ever go for. Change the pulley =
and hey presto!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">(Being sure =
to check you=E2=80=99re buying the right pump body!)<u></u><u></u></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,san=
s-serif;font-size:11pt">Simon<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium =
medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentCo=
lor currentColor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11=
pt">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri=
&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"> Richard Collins &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:go=
nnagitcha90@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com</a>&gt=
; <br><b>Sent:</b> 07 October 2019 16:27<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:si=
mon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel=
.plus.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> John Spaur &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jmsdarch@sbcgl=
obal.net" target=3D"_blank">jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt;; Ahealey help &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;; i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] mo=
ss water pump<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yep; <span style=3D"font-size:=
11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It was a County,=
 from China...likely the only source.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">I had plans to rebuild mine but it bro=
ke apart in the process even being careful, sort of.<u></u><u></u></p><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards, <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">Richard C<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u=
></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">On Oct 7, 2019, at 10:14, <a href=3D"m=
ailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@al=
exarevel.plus.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></=
u><u></u></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-=
bottom:5pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ta=
homa&quot;,sans-serif">=EF=BB=BF</span> <span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-=
size:11pt">I had a leaky pump and bought a kit from Michael. Worked well. Y=
ou really need a BIG VICE or a press=E2=80=A6.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-seri=
f;font-size:11pt">I=E2=80=99ve never heard anything better than =E2=80=9Cit=
=E2=80=99s lasted so far=E2=80=9D with reference to County pumps. When I wa=
s looking at my options and asking around, I found most of UK suppliers to =
be strangely reticent as to the manufacturer of their pumps. None of them f=
ailed a straight =E2=80=9CIs it a County pump? Yes or no!=E2=80=9D, but the=
re was an amusing reluctance=E2=80=A6</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:11pt">Simon</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span=
><u></u><u></u></p><div><div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border=
-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentColor currentCo=
lor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" sty=
le=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">From:</spa=
n></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-se=
rif;font-size:11pt"> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.te=
am.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Beha=
lf Of </b>Richard Collins<br><b>Sent:</b> 07 October 2019 14:45<br><b>To:</=
b> John Spaur &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Ahealey help &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a=
>&gt;; i erbs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] moss water pum=
p</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Couple of yea=
rs ago I bought one out of the UK to avoid the issues others had with US so=
urced pumps. Turned out it was the same mfg. fit ok however and still works=
.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Regards, <u></u><u></u></p><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Richard of KY<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">BN7 440<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><b=
r><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">On Oct 7, 2019, at 02:2=
6, John Spaur &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k">jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></di=
v><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">=EF=BB=
=BF</span> <u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rg=
b(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">No =
on purchasing the pump, however, high running temps probably are not associ=
ated with the pump.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font=
-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-=
size:11pt">John Spaur</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:11pt">=E2=80=9962 BT7</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif;font-size:11pt">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:11p=
t">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-seri=
f;font-size:11pt"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behal=
f Of </b>i erbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 6, 2019 10:46 PM<br><b>To:<=
/b> Ahealey help &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] moss wate=
r pump</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Howdy all,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">=C2=A0Has anyone recently purchased a water pump for the 3000 e=
ngine from Moss? There were comments about quality in the past. I replaced =
my pump as preventative maintenance about 10 years ago and 3000 miles. I am=
 still chasing some high running temps. I was given a gift certificate=C2=
=A0for Moss and that I would=C2=A0replace the pump on the off chance it is =
my problem. The issue was with the County pumps. Wish I could=C2=A0find my =
original one and rebuild it...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">Thanks<br clear=3D"all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><=
div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">Ira Erbs<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Portland,OR<u></u><=
u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0_______<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=
 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (=
_________________________)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and disk brakes<u></u><u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">1967 MGB =C2=A0<span style=3D"padding:0cm;border:1pt solid windowtex=
t"><img width=3D"50" height=3D"49" id=3D"gmail-m_1606698086204112766Picture=
_x0020_1" style=3D"width: 0.52in; height: 0.506in;" alt=3D"Image removed by=
 sender. MG" src=3D"cid:16da83167a34ce8e91" border=3D"0"></span><u></u><u><=
/u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:&quo=
t;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:10.5pt">A racing car is an animal wi=
th a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled =
words<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></di=
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