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Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction

To: Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction
From: Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:00:14 +1100
Cc: Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net>, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
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My BJ8 - original RHD - has the chassis number stamped on the floor.=20
As do numerous other RHD BJ8's.=20
Best
Chris
www.myaustinhealey.com=20



> On 17 Oct 2018, at 9:19 am, Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net> wrote:=

>=20
> My BT7 Mk. II has a number on the shock tower, but it isn't the chassis nu=
mber.
>=20
>> On 10/16/2018 1:30 PM, i erbs wrote:
>> BT7 3000s did not have the # stamped on the shock towers.
>>=20
>> Ira Erbs
>> Portland,OR
>>       _______                                  _______
>>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>>          (_________________________)
>>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>>=20
>>=20
>> 1967 MGB =20
>>=20
>> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
>>=20
>>=20
>>> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:07 AM Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.net>=
 wrote:
>>> =46rom what I understand, earlier 3000s have a number stamped there, but=
 it doesn't match any other other number on the car, but BJ8s do have the ch=
assis number there.
>>>=20
>>>> On 10/15/2018 8:06 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:
>>>> So Charlie,
>>>>=20
>>>> Yes, 3000s should have the chassis number stamped on the right front sh=
ock tower.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> To be clear, Phase I BJ8's (1964) looked very similar to BJ7's.  They h=
ad glass "Beehive" front parking/side and rear stop lights, reflectors, the p=
ull versus the push-button door handles and the lower rear axle.  They DID h=
ave the wood dash and of course the larger engine making them BJ8s not BJ7s.=

>>>>=20
>>>> Here's a nice example in Black w/red interior... =20
>>>>=20
>>>> https://www.erclassics.com/austin-healey-3000-bj8-1964-a0747/#lg=3D1&sl=
ide=3D13
>>>>=20
>>>> Now Phase II BJ8's came in a number of variations.  When they first cam=
e out in 1964-5 they now had the single plastic lights front and rear with t=
he reflectors, the jacked up rear end, and push button door handles.
>>>>=20
>>>> Here's another nice example in Black w/red interior...
>>>>=20
>>>> https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo17/auction/lots/r169-1964-austin-h=
ealey-3000-mk-iii-bj8-phase-ii
>>>>=20
>>>> In '66 and '67 we have the final version with all plastic lights, two f=
ront and two rear.
>>>>=20
>>>> One final example in Black over Red w/ a red interior...
>>>>=20
>>>> https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/detail/austinhealey-3000-544721
>>>>=20
>>>> This should clear things up.
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>=20
>>>> Curt
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 3:49 PM Charlie                   Baldwin <mgc=
harlie@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> So Curt, you may be saying that this car does not match what a car wit=
h that chassis number should look like.  Don't BJ8s have the chassis number s=
tamped on the right front shock mount?  So it may be titled with the wrong c=
hassis number.  That is a greater concern to me than being the wrong color o=
r having poorly fitting seat covers.  The poorly stamped chassis number plat=
e could be part of the issue also.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> When I saw it on the screen when it came up for auction, I thought tha=
t it probably isn't really a '65 due to the double parking/ts lights.  Then I=
 figured it was just an error on the year they put on the title.  But this i=
s much more serious an issue since the chassis number does not indicate it i=
s a Phase 2 BJ8, when it definitely looks like one.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Charlie
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On 10/15/2018 1:04 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:
>>>>>> FWIW...
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Obviously, there are some issues with this car. =20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Regarding the seats, I agree, the fit is terrible and that also bring=
s up another issue in that the vast majority of US delivered convertibles ca=
me with vinyl interiors, and it was a very rare option to have leather seats=
. I don't know the percentage off the top of my head, but it may have been l=
ess than 5%.  I will check.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> <Leather on BJ8=E2=80=99s was an option on home market cars (England)=
. Very few original American LHD BJ8 have been observed with leather seats -=
- =E2=80=9CLeather trim for seats, armrest and rear folding squabs=E2=80=9D w=
as listed as an available option for BJ8's.>
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> For me the biggest potential issue is that this car is supposedly a 1=
965 (chassis no. 30659), and as such it would have had the single plastic si=
de lights up front and also in the rear, with reflectors instead of the seco=
nd set of amber plastic turn signal lights? =20
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> =46rom the 2018 Guidelines...
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> <BJ8s from Car No. 26705 have a single front parking/turn flasher uni=
t with a white plastic lens that is larger and flatter in profile (Lucas typ=
e 692), up through Phase II BJ8 (C) 31337 (B) 76137.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Rear combination tail/turn signal/brake lights with a single beehive-=
shaped red lens, on the fender just above the bumper, were used on all Heale=
ys up to Phase II BJ8 Car No. 31336 (B) 76138 (type 594 on 100-6 and 3000s t=
o c. 26704).  With that car, the upper reflectors were replaced with separat=
e turn-signal lights (with a larger body fairing) and amber plastic lenses a=
nd the lower lights were replaced  with tail/brake lights with red plastic l=
enses. Both upper and lower lights on these later cars were Lucas type 692 t=
hrough the end of production.>
>>>>>>  =20
>>>>>> Did anyone else notice in the very first photo the right front wing w=
heel opening?  The metal work looks a bit inconsistent and the opening is no=
t consistently round? Compare to the right rear wheel opening.  Maybe it's t=
he                           angle of the photo, I don't know?  The left fro=
nt opening looks much better.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> All this said, it's easy to pick a car apart and overall, any critici=
sms can be repaired, albeit at a cost, but then the high bid of $67.5K may r=
eflect these observations. It is an overall good looking car none the less, e=
ven with its flaws.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Curt
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 8:45 AM Charlie Baldwin <mgcharlie@comcast.n=
et> wrote:
>>>>>>> Steve, I'm glad you have it in the registry.
>>>>>>> Someone told me on Saturday at the Hershey car show that it was rest=
ored there, but I didn't know for sure, so didn't want to credit/blame them.=

>>>>>>> It appears that leather seat covers were installed, but not very wel=
l as someone else mentioned.
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>>=20
>>>>>>> > On October 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com> wrote=
:
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> > Charlie Baldwin:  strange that I never received your original mess=
age via the list (yet).
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> > Yes, I have the car in the registry.  One previous owner recorded i=
n New Hampshire (AHCA member 1990 - 1999), then restoration by Knut Holzer's=
 BMC Classics in April 2008.
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> > Steve Byers
>>>>>>> > HBJ8L/36666
>>>>>>> > BJ8 Registry
>>>>>>> > AHCA Delegate at Large
>>>>>>> > Havelock, NC =20
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> > From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of=
 Bob Spidell
>>>>>>> > Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 12:44 PM
>>>>>>> > To: healeys@autox.team.net
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey auction
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> > Not MGB, but 'champagne.'  Was that an original color?  This one c=
ame=20
>>>>>>> > from the factory in white; maybe that's why it didn't sell?
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> > Not the best seat upholstery I've seen, and is the shift lever ben=
t, or=20
>>>>>>> > is it an illusion?  And the fluid reservoir spoils an otherwise ni=
ce=20
>>>>>>> > engine bay presentation.  Nice car, nonetheless.
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> > Bob
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> >=20
>>>>>>> > On 10/14/2018 8:17 AM, Charlie Baldwin wrote:
>>>>>>> > > Here is a Metallic Golden Beige BJ8 that was in the auction, but=
=20
>>>>>>> > > apparently didn't make reserve.  I think the hammer price was=20=

>>>>>>> > > $67,500.  Comments anyone?  Steve Byers, is this one in your reg=
ister?
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > > https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/hf18/hershey/lots/r0137-1965-=
austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8/721386=20
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>> >=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>My BJ8 - original RHD - has the chassi=
s number stamped on the floor.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">As d=
o numerous other RHD BJ8's.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Best</=
div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Chris</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"=
><a href=3D"http://www.myaustinhealey.com";>www.myaustinhealey.com</a>&nbsp;<=
br><br><br></div><div><br>On 17 Oct 2018, at 9:19 am, Charlie Baldwin &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:mgcharlie@comcast.net";>mgcharlie@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>
 =20
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>
 =20
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    <p>My BT7 Mk. II has a number on the shock tower, but it isn't the
      chassis number.<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 10/16/2018 1:30 PM, i erbs wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:CABXhz8_GiTNrFjKnBfyfKCcqU-cef9F8g=
OH+f0w3LyzRBsm7EA@mail.gmail.com">
      <meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-=
8">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">BT7 3000s did not have the # stamped on the shock
        towers.
        <div><br clear=3D"all">
          <div>
            <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gma=
il_signature">
              <div dir=3D"ltr">
                <div>
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                      <div dir=3D"ltr">
                        <div>
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                                  <div dir=3D"ltr">
                                    <div>
                                      <div dir=3D"ltr">
                                        <div dir=3D"ltr">Ira Erbs
                                          <div>Portland,OR</div>
                                          <div><span style=3D"font-family:'T=
imes
                                              New Roman',serif">&nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp;
                                              _______ &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
                                              &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;_______</span><br style=3D"font-family:'Times
                                              New Roman',serif">
                                            <span style=3D"font-family:'Time=
s
                                              New Roman',serif">&nbsp; &nbsp=
;&nbsp;
                                              (______ \____1959 BN4____/
                                              _______)</span><br style=3D"fo=
nt-family:'Times
                                              New Roman',serif">
                                            <span style=3D"font-family:'Time=
s
                                              New Roman',serif">&nbsp; &nbsp=
; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;
(_________________________)</span></div>
                                          <div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &=
nbsp; BT7 engine and
                                            disk brakes</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>1967 MGB &nbsp;<img src=3D"ht=
tp://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG" m=
oz-do-not-send=3D"true"></div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><span style=3D"color:rgb(51,5=
1,51);font-family:&quot;Helvetica
Neue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">A racing car is an
                                              animal with a thousand
                                              adjustments. Mario
                                              Andretti</span><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Please excuse random auto
                                            corrects and misspelled
                                            words</div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:07 AM Charlie Baldwin
          &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgcharlie@comcast.net"; moz-do-not-send=3D"tr=
ue">mgcharlie@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0
          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
            <p>=46rom what I understand, earlier 3000s have a number
              stamped there, but it doesn't match any other other number
              on the car, but BJ8s do have the chassis number there.<br>
            </p>
            <br>
            <div class=3D"m_-3509005414954637105moz-cite-prefix">On
              10/15/2018 8:06 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type=3D"cite">
              <div dir=3D"ltr">
                <div dir=3D"ltr">
                  <div dir=3D"ltr">
                    <div dir=3D"ltr">
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">
                        <div dir=3D"ltr">So Charlie,
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Yes, 3000s should have the chassis number
                            stamped on the right front shock tower.&nbsp;<br=
>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>To be clear, Phase I BJ8's (1964)
                              looked very similar to BJ7's.&nbsp; They had <=
u>glass</u>
                              "Beehive" front parking/side and rear stop
                              lights, reflectors, the pull versus the
                              push-button door handles and the lower
                              rear axle.&nbsp; They DID have the wood dash
                              and of course the larger engine making
                              them BJ8s not BJ7s.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Here's a nice example in Black w/red
                              interior...&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div><a href=3D"https://www.erclassics.com/austi=
n-healey-3000-bj8-1964-a0747/#lg=3D1&amp;slide=3D13" target=3D"_blank" moz-d=
o-not-send=3D"true">https://www.erclassics.com/austin-healey-3000-bj8-1964-a=
0747/#lg=3D1&amp;slide=3D13</a></div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Now Phase II BJ8's came in a number of
                              variations.&nbsp; When they first came out in
                              1964-5 they now had the single plastic
                              lights front and rear with the reflectors,
                              the jacked up rear end, and push button
                              door handles.</div>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Here's another nice example in Black
                            w/red interior...</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><a href=3D"https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions=
/mo17/auction/lots/r169-1964-austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8-phase-ii" target=3D=
"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo17/au=
ction/lots/r169-1964-austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8-phase-ii</a><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>In '66 and '67 we have the final version
                            with all plastic lights, two front and two
                            rear.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>One final example in Black over Red w/ a
                            red interior...</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><a href=3D"https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au=
/detail/austinhealey-3000-544721" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true"=
>https://www.tradeuniquecars.com.au/detail/austinhealey-3000-544721</a><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>This should clear things up.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Cheers,</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>Curt</div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br>
              <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                <div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 3:49 PM Charlie
                  Baldwin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgcharlie@comcast.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgcharlie@comcast.net</a>&gt;
                  wrote:<br>
                </div>
                <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0
                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF">
                    <p>So Curt, you may be saying that this car does not
                      match what a car with that chassis number should
                      look like.&nbsp; Don't BJ8s have the chassis number
                      stamped on the right front shock mount?&nbsp; So it ma=
y
                      be titled with the wrong chassis number.&nbsp; That is=

                      a greater concern to me than being the wrong color
                      or having poorly fitting seat covers.&nbsp; The poorly=

                      stamped chassis number plate could be part of the
                      issue also.</p>
                    <p>When I saw it on the screen when it came up for
                      auction, I thought that it probably isn't really a
                      '65 due to the double parking/ts lights.&nbsp; Then I
                      figured it was just an error on the year they put
                      on the title.&nbsp; But this is much more serious an
                      issue since the chassis number does not indicate
                      it is a Phase 2 BJ8, when it definitely looks like
                      one.</p>
                    <p>Charlie<br>
                    </p>
                    <br>
                    <div class=3D"m_-3509005414954637105m_-28972486592805256=
98m_-1532920764489079262moz-cite-prefix">On
                      10/15/2018 1:04 PM, Curtis Arndt wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">
                        <div>FWIW...</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        Obviously, there are some issues with this
                        car.&nbsp;&nbsp;
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Regarding the seats, I agree, the fit is
                          terrible and that also brings up another issue
                          in that the vast majority of US delivered
                          convertibles came with vinyl interiors, and it
                          was a very rare option to have leather seats.
                          I don't know the percentage off the top of my
                          head, but it may have been less than 5%.&nbsp; I
                          will check.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><span class=3D"m_-3509005414954637105m_-2897248=
659280525698m_-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0" style=3D"font-family:Boo=
kmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">&lt;Leather
                            on BJ8=E2=80=99s was an option on home market ca=
rs
                            (England). Very few original American LHD
                            BJ8 have been observed with leather seats
                            --&nbsp;</span><span class=3D"m_-350900541495463=
7105m_-2897248659280525698m_-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle2" style=3D"f=
ont-family:Arial-BoldMT;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold;color:rgb(0,0,0)">=E2=
=80=9CLeather
                            trim for seats, armrest and rear folding
                            squabs=E2=80=9D </span><span class=3D"m_-3509005=
414954637105m_-2897248659280525698m_-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0" st=
yle=3D"font-family:BookmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">was
                            listed as an available option for BJ8's.&gt;</sp=
an><br style=3D"font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;l=
ine-height:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto">
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>For me the biggest potential issue is that
                          this car is supposedly a 1965 (chassis no. <u>3065=
9</u>),
                          and as such it would have had the single
                          plastic side lights up front and also in the
                          rear, with reflectors instead of the second
                          set of amber plastic turn signal lights?&nbsp;&nbs=
p;</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>=46rom the 2018 Guidelines...</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><span class=3D"m_-3509005414954637105m_-2897248=
659280525698m_-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0" style=3D"font-family:Boo=
kmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">&lt;</span><span style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:BookmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt">BJ8s
                            from Car No. 26705 have a single front
                            parking/turn flasher unit with a&nbsp;</span><sp=
an style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:BookmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt">whi=
te
                            plastic lens that is larger and flatter in
                            profile (Lucas type 692), up&nbsp;</span><span c=
lass=3D"m_-3509005414954637105m_-2897248659280525698m_-1532920764489079262gm=
ail-fontstyle0" style=3D"font-family:BookmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt;color:rg=
b(0,0,0)">through
                            Phase II BJ8 (C) <u>31337</u> (B) 76137.</span><=
/div>
                        <div><span class=3D"m_-3509005414954637105m_-2897248=
659280525698m_-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0" style=3D"font-family:Boo=
kmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
                          </span></div>
                        <div><span class=3D"m_-3509005414954637105m_-2897248=
659280525698m_-1532920764489079262gmail-fontstyle0" style=3D"font-family:Boo=
kmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Rear
                            combination tail/turn signal/brake lights
                            with a single beehive-shaped red lens, on
                            the fender just above the bumper, were used
                            on all Healeys up to Phase II BJ8 Car No. <u>313=
36</u>
                            (B) 76138 (type 594 on 100-6 and 3000s to c.
                            26704).&nbsp; With that car, the upper reflector=
s
                            were replaced with separate turn-signal
                            lights (with a larger body fairing) and
                            amber plastic lenses and the lower lights
                            were&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)=
;font-family:BookmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt">replaced&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><spa=
n style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:BookmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt">with=

                            tail/brake lights with red plastic lenses.
                            Both upper and lower lights&nbsp;</span><span cl=
ass=3D"m_-3509005414954637105m_-2897248659280525698m_-1532920764489079262gma=
il-fontstyle0" style=3D"font-family:BookmanOldStyle;font-size:10pt;color:rgb=
(0,0,0)">on
                            these later cars were Lucas type 692 through
                            the end of production.&gt;</span></div>
                        <div>&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
                        <div>Did anyone else notice in the very first
                          photo the right front wing wheel opening?&nbsp; Th=
e
                          metal work looks a bit inconsistent and the
                          opening is not consistently round? Compare to
                          the right rear wheel opening.&nbsp; Maybe it's the=

                          angle of the photo, I don't know?&nbsp; The left
                          front opening looks much better.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>All this said, it's easy to pick a car
                          apart and overall, any criticisms can be
                          repaired, albeit at a cost, but then the high
                          bid of $67.5K may reflect these observations.
                          It is an overall good looking car none the
                          less, even with its flaws.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Cheers,</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Curt</div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
                        <div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 8:45 AM
                          Charlie Baldwin &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mgcharlie@co=
mcast.net" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mgcharlie@comcast.net<=
/a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0
                          0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                          solid;padding-left:1ex">Steve, I'm glad you
                          have it in the registry.<br>
                          Someone told me on Saturday at the Hershey car
                          show that it was restored there, but I didn't
                          know for sure, so didn't want to credit/blame
                          them.<br>
                          It appears that leather seat covers were
                          installed, but not very well as someone else
                          mentioned.<br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
                          &gt; On October 15, 2018 at 9:11 AM BJ8Healeys
                          &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>&gt;
                          wrote:<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Charlie Baldwin:&nbsp; strange that I never
                          received your original message via the list
                          (yet).<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Yes, I have the car in the registry.&nbsp; On=
e
                          previous owner recorded in New Hampshire (AHCA
                          member 1990 - 1999), then restoration by Knut
                          Holzer's BMC Classics in April 2008.<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Steve Byers<br>
                          &gt; HBJ8L/36666<br>
                          &gt; BJ8 Registry<br>
                          &gt; AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
                          &gt; Havelock, NC&nbsp; <br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
                          &gt; From: Healeys [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:heale=
ys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healey=
s-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
                          On Behalf Of Bob Spidell<br>
                          &gt; Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 12:44 PM<br>
                          &gt; To: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"=
 target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
                          &gt; Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 at RM Hershey
                          auction<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Not MGB, but 'champagne.'&nbsp; Was that an
                          original color?&nbsp; This one came <br>
                          &gt; from the factory in white; maybe that's
                          why it didn't sell?<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Not the best seat upholstery I've seen,
                          and is the shift lever bent, or <br>
                          &gt; is it an illusion?&nbsp; And the fluid
                          reservoir spoils an otherwise nice <br>
                          &gt; engine bay presentation.&nbsp; Nice car,
                          nonetheless.<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; Bob<br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; <br>
                          &gt; On 10/14/2018 8:17 AM, Charlie Baldwin
                          wrote:<br>
                          &gt; &gt; Here is a Metallic Golden Beige BJ8
                          that was in the auction, but <br>
                          &gt; &gt; apparently didn't make reserve.&nbsp; I
                          think the hammer price was <br>
                          &gt; &gt; $67,500.&nbsp; Comments anyone?&nbsp; St=
eve
                          Byers, is this one in your register?<br>
                          &gt; &gt;<br>
                          &gt; &gt; <a href=3D"https://rmsothebys.com/en/auc=
tions/hf18/hershey/lots/r0137-1965-austin-healey-3000-mk-iii-bj8/721386" rel=
=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://rmsotheby=
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/721386</a>
                          <br>
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