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As a long time lurker I thought I would jump in on this one. I tend to =
agree with Bill.=20
Someone once explained to me that the difference between a =
=E2=80=9CRoadster=E2=80=9D and a =E2=80=9CConvertible=E2=80=9D was the =
fact that a Roadster does not have fixed door windows/frames and a =
convertible does, ie. wind up windows. I am sure it is simply a =
marketing term that is inconsistently used between manufacturers.
*******************************
Rohan (aka Aussie)
=E2=80=9956 Longbridge BN4 =E2=80=9CHellouise"
> On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:54 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> I think a roadster is a car on which the top disappears into the body =
when not erected. It can be on an attached frame or completely =
removable, but it it's not seen when it's down.
>=20
> Bill Lawrence
>=20
>=20
> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of i erbs =
<eyera3000@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:46 PM
> To: Len and/or Marge Hartnett
> Cc: Ahealey help
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.
> =20
> Len it's a convertible. Although in modern use any two seat =
convertible is called a roadster. My BN4 is a roadster. Door blends into =
front cowl without interruption of window vent or terminated dash.
> Ira Erbs
> 1959 100-6
> MKI engine and disc brakes
> Portland,OR
>=20
> On Sep 27, 2016 3:00 PM, "Len and/or Marge Hartnett" =
> =20
> Long ago, someone told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have =
been calling it that ever since. My California registration certificate =
lists the Body Type Model as "RD" (roadster?). Here is what my BL =
Heritage certificate says:
> =20
> "Thank you for your enquiry of 17 August concerning your Austin-Healey =
3000 Mark III convertible".
> =20
> (Note that Austin-Healey has the hyphen. I'm talking August, 1982, =
here)
> =20
> (The Other) Len
> Fairfield, CA, USA
> 1967 AH 3000 MkIII, HBJ8L39031
> =20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 4:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Convertible Top.
>=20
> A convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and =
roll up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a =
removable hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled =
at the need (desire?) to change everything. IMHO.
> =20
> Cheers,
> =20
> Doug=20
>=20
>=20
> Bob
> That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed to the =
car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over here. =
Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen them =
as roadsters I've never thought about it.
> =20
> Best regards, Per
>=20
> Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad
>=20
> 26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net =
>=20
> So what is a BN2? It has an erectable hood, and it's most definitely =
fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)? I always considered it a roadster, just =
like my dad's Model A.
> =20
>=20
> =20
> Gents
> I think we have to get the definitions right. A convertible is a =
vehicle that has a removable top, but the top is fixed to the car. Like =
the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the =
top is removable, and is not fixed to the vehicle. I suggest a simple =
Googling on this and you will get the terms right.
> =20
> Best regards, Per
> =20
> Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad
> =20
> =20
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">As a long time lurker I thought I would jump =
in on this one. I tend to agree with Bill. <div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Someone once explained to me that the =
difference between a =E2=80=9CRoadster=E2=80=9D and a =E2=80=9CConvertible=
=E2=80=9D was the fact that a Roadster does not have fixed door =
windows/frames and a convertible does, ie. wind up windows. I am sure it =
is simply a marketing term that is inconsistently used between =
manufacturers.<br class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<p style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D""><font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-family: Helvetica;" =
class=3D"">*******************************</font></p><p style=3D"margin: =
0px;" class=3D"">Rohan (aka Aussie)<br class=3D"">=E2=80=9956 Longbridge =
BN4 =E2=80=9CHellouise"</p>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Sep 27, 2016, at 7:54 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <<a =
href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; class=3D"">ynotink@msn.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
id=3D"divtagdefaultwrapper" style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, =
Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D"">I think a roadster is a car on which the =
top disappears into the body when not erected. It can be on an =
attached frame or completely removable, but it it's not seen when =
it's down.</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D"">Bill Lawrence</div><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div style=3D"" class=3D""><hr tabindex=3D"-1" =
customtabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" style=3D"display: inline-block; =
width: 790.859375px;" class=3D""><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" style=3D"font-size: 11pt;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of i erbs =
<<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, September 27, 2016 =
10:46 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Len and/or Marge =
Hartnett<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Ahealey help<br class=3D""><b=
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Healeys] Convertible =
Top.</font><div class=3D""> </div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D"">Len it's a =
convertible. Although in modern use any two seat convertible is called a =
roadster. My BN4 is a roadster. Door blends into front cowl without =
interruption of window vent or terminated dash.</div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=3D"">Ira Erbs<br =
class=3D"">1959 100-6<br class=3D"">MKI engine and disc brakes<br =
class=3D"">Portland,OR</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br class=3D""><div=
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 27, 2016 3:00 PM, "Len and/or Marge =
Hartnett" <<a href=3D"mailto:thehartnetts@earthlink.net"; =
tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" =
class=3D"">thehartnetts@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br =
type=3D"attribution" class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; =
border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; =
padding-left: 1ex;"><u class=3D""></u><div bgcolor=3D"#ffffff" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""> </div><div class=3D"">Long ago, someone =
told me that my Healey was a roadster and I have been calling it that =
ever since. My California registration certificate lists the Body =
Type Model as "RD" (roadster?). Here is what my BL Heritage =
certificate says:</div><div class=3D""> </div><div class=3D"">"Thank =
you for your enquiry of 17 August concerning your Austin-Healey 3000 =
Mark III convertible".</div><div class=3D""> </div><div =
class=3D"">(Note that Austin-Healey has the hyphen. I'm talking =
August, 1982, here)</div><div class=3D""> </div><div class=3D"">(The =
Other) Len<br class=3D"">Fairfield, CA, USA<br class=3D"">1967 AH 3000 =
MkIII, HBJ8L39031</div><div class=3D""> </div><blockquote =
style=3D"border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; =
border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; =
margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;" class=3D""><div style=3D"font-style:=
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: =
10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=3D"">----- =
Original Message -----<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; =
background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial =
initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">From:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
title=3D"dwflagg@juno.com" href=3D"mailto:dwflagg@juno.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" =
class=3D"">dwflagg@juno.com</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; =
line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
title=3D"per@schoerner.se" href=3D"mailto:per@schoerner.se"; =
target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" =
class=3D"">per@schoerner.se</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; =
line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" disabled=3D"true" =
class=3D"">healeys@autox.team.net</a></div><div style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; =
line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, September 26, 2016 =
4:43 PM</div><div style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; =
font-family: arial;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Healeys] Convertible =
Top.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">A =
convertible has a retractible hood that is affixed to the car and roll =
up windows. A roadster (which hardly ever has the top up!!) has a =
removable hood, stowed in the rear, with side curtains. I am befuddled =
at the need (desire?) to change everything. IMHO.</div><div =
class=3D""> </div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div =
class=3D""> </div><div class=3D"">Doug <br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Bob</div><div =
class=3D"">That's too difficult, not fair ;-). Is the frame also fixed =
to the car? Sorry for my ignorance, but BN2:s doesn't grow on trees over =
here. Admit that there are a few around, but as I also always have seen =
them as roadsters I've never thought about it.</div><div =
class=3D""> </div><div class=3D"">Best regards, Per<br class=3D""><br=
class=3D"">Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPad</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">26 sep. 2016 kl. 20:27 skrev Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" tabindex=3D"-1" =
disabled=3D"true" class=3D"">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">So what is a BN2? It has an erectable =
hood, and it's most definitely fixed to the car (by 6 bolts)? I =
always considered it a roadster, just like my dad's Model A.</div><div =
class=3D""> </div><hr class=3D""><div style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; font-weight: =
normal; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""> </div>Gents<br class=3D"">I think we have to get the =
definitions right. A convertible is a vehicle that has a removable top, =
but the top is fixed to the car. Like the case is with BJ7 and BJ8. The =
BT7 is a roadster, meaning that the top is removable, and is not fixed =
to the vehicle. I suggest a simple Googling on this and you will get the =
terms right.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""> </div>Best regards, =
Per<br class=3D""><div class=3D""> </div>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min =
iPad<br class=3D""><div class=3D""> </div><div class=3D""><font =
face=3D"Arial" =
class=3D""></font> </div></div></div></div></blockquote></blockquote>=
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