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To: Rick Schwartz <healeyrik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fw: BJ8 Tacho Upgrade and Digital Speedos
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:26:13 -0700
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Rick and I have both been beta testing these units. My drives over the last
few days have shown it to accurate and I was able to calibrate it with my 5
speed and 185 tires. Still a bit if gear noise from the bix, to be fixed in
the next iteration. Hooks up to oem speedo.  Looks like a great solution.
Nfi. Just interested in seeing if it would work for me and it does. I do
get a free one for testing it. Full disclosure.

Mr. Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
1959 Austin Healey 100-6
please forgive odd words and auto corrects as   my phone cannot understand
my misspellings
On Jul 12, 2016 10:15 PM, "HealeyRick" <healeyrik@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is another option to retain the car's original speedometer and usin=
g
> a GPS driven motor that is just coming on market now:
> http://www.classicautoinnovations.com/#!blank/cvdf
>
> Rick Neville
>
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> Recently went to Wales to collect my stepper motor converted tacho. and
>> now installed.
>> So far very good; nice bright red ignition led indicator and led back
>> lights.
>> They also changed the face text from =E2=80=9Cpositive earth=E2=80=9D to=
 negative =E2=80=93 nice
>> touch.
>> Proper digital stepper motor (BTW Nisonger and others ? don't do this) s=
o
>> no more calibration or analog issues, or current pulses.  No mechanical
>> hairspring type movement.
>> Input is from from the CB on the coil and a new wire has to be installed=
;
>> a little sensitive to routing. I use a Pertronix.
>> No doubt they could also convert a mechanical tacho. to digital as well.
>>
>> Now digital speedos.
>>
>> There are 2 options.
>>
>> The first, that I have ordered, is to cut the speedo. cable at a
>> convenient spot and install a pulse transducer. My thinking is that this=
 is
>> preferable and easier than installing a magnetic type on the drive shaft=
.
>> They are building me a RVI instrument that will be near identical to the
>> original Smiths with dished face, but with a LED display in place of the
>> odo and trip.
>> This will have a modern digital stepper motor drive and hopefully be
>> stable and accurate. High beam indicator as before. Easy, accurate
>> calibration.
>> I have ordered this as MPH and so my plan, for driving in Canada will be
>> to calibrate for 140 MPH as actually 140 kPH. This is easy to do and whe=
n
>> in US will revert back to MPH. Only problem is that the total odo will b=
e
>> affected; may just use the trip to keep track or just stick with MPH.
>> Will report back after receipt.
>>
>> Second option is to use an electronic digital cable drive to drive the
>> original magnetic speedo with original odo. and trip, if preserving the
>> original look is important. This also uses the same pulse transducer as =
per
>> the LCD one. The pulses now drive a mini digital brushless dc motor in a
>> separate box with electronic speed control. This box has a speedo cable
>> output (usually short) so electronic scaling is easy but it is still a
>> mechanical magnetic cup type drive. Hopefully, with no long cable and sa=
ble
>> pulses the typical speedo blips etc will be eliminated. There is also so=
me
>> electronic filtering. This is the more expensive option and they insist
>> they will only sell this option if you have the original speedo refurbis=
hed
>> by them as well. This in the final stages of development and they have a
>> large contract to fulfill in next 2 months, so realistically by Nov. tim=
e.
>>
>> As I will still have my original speedo. so if not happy with the LCD
>> above could resort to this solution.
>>
>> rg
>>
>> *From:* Roger Grace <roggrace@telus.net>
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 6, 2016 8:33 AM
>> *To:* Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* BJ8 Tacho Upgrade
>>
>> Seriously thinking of getting my moving coil tacho. upgraded to a modern
>> stepper motor type movement, retaining the original face and case.
>> Speedy Cables in Wales offer this.
>> So, wondering (UK listers ?) if anyone has had this done and any comment=
s
>> about this type of conversion.
>> Are there perhaps any US companies that do this as well ?
>> Tkx
>> rg
>>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Rick and I have both been beta testing these units. My drive=
s over the last few days have shown it to accurate and I was able to calibr=
ate it with my 5 speed and 185 tires. Still a bit if gear noise from the bi=
x, to be fixed in the next iteration. Hooks up to oem speedo.=C2=A0 Looks l=
ike a great solution. Nfi. Just interested in seeing if it would work for m=
e and it does. I do get a free one for testing it. Full disclosure.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Mr. Ira Erbs<br>
Portland,OR<br>
1959 Austin Healey 100-6<br>
please forgive odd words and auto corrects as=C2=A0=C2=A0 my phone cannot u=
nderstand my misspellings </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 12, 2016 10:15 PM, &quot;HealeyRick&quot;=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeyrik@gmail.com";>healeyrik@gmail.com</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>There is another option to retain the car&#39;s original speedometer and u=
sing a GPS driven motor that is just coming on market now: =C2=A0<a href=3D=
"http://www.classicautoinnovations.com/#!blank/cvdf"; target=3D"_blank">http=
://www.classicautoinnovations.com/#!blank/cvdf</a><div><br></div><div>Rick =
Neville</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Roger Grace <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:roggrace@telus.net"; target=3D"_blank">roggrace@telus.net</a>&gt=
;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
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<div>Recently went to Wales to collect my stepper motor converted tacho. an=
d now=20
installed.</div>
<div>So far very good; nice bright red ignition led indicator and led back=
=20
lights.</div>
<div>They also changed the face text from =E2=80=9Cpositive earth=E2=80=9D =
to negative =E2=80=93 nice=20
touch.</div>
<div>Proper digital stepper motor (BTW Nisonger and others ? don&#39;t do t=
his) so=20
no more calibration or analog issues, or current pulses.=C2=A0 No mechanica=
l=20
hairspring type movement.</div>
<div>Input is from from the CB on the coil and a new wire has to be install=
ed; a=20
little sensitive to routing. I use a Pertronix.</div>
<div>No doubt they could also convert a mechanical tacho. to digital as=20
well.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Now digital speedos.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>There are 2 options.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The first, that I have ordered, is to cut the speedo. cable at a conve=
nient=20
spot and install a pulse transducer. My thinking is that this is preferable=
 and=20
easier than installing a magnetic type on the drive shaft.</div>
<div>They are building me a RVI instrument that will be near identical to t=
he=20
original Smiths with dished face, but with a LED display in place of the od=
o and=20
trip.</div>
<div>This will have a modern digital stepper motor drive and hopefully be s=
table=20
and accurate. High beam indicator as before. Easy, accurate calibration.</d=
iv>
<div>I have ordered this as MPH and so my plan, for driving in Canada will =
be to=20
calibrate for 140 MPH as actually 140 kPH. This is easy to do and when in U=
S=20
will revert back to MPH. Only problem is that the total odo will be affecte=
d;=20
may just use the trip to keep track or just stick with MPH.</div>
<div>Will report back after receipt.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Second option is to use an electronic digital cable drive to drive the=
=20
original magnetic speedo with original odo. and trip, if preserving the ori=
ginal=20
look is important. This also uses the same pulse transducer as per the LCD =
one.=20
The pulses now drive a mini digital brushless dc motor in a separate box wi=
th=20
electronic speed control. This box has a speedo cable output (usually short=
) so=20
electronic scaling is easy but it is still a mechanical magnetic cup type d=
rive.=20
Hopefully, with no long cable and sable pulses the typical speedo blips etc=
 will=20
be eliminated. There is also some electronic filtering. This is the more=20
expensive option and they insist they will only sell this option if you hav=
e the=20
original speedo refurbished by them as well. This in the final stages of=20
development and they have a large contract to fulfill in next 2 months, so=
=20
realistically by Nov. time.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>As I will still have my original speedo. so if not happy with the LCD =
above=20
could resort to this solution.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>rg</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"roggrace@telus.net" href=3D"mailto:roggrace@t=
elus.net" target=3D"_blank">Roger Grace</a> </div>
<div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 6, 2016 8:33 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">Healey List</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> BJ8 Tacho Upgrade</div></div></div>
<div><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS"></font>=C2=A0</div></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Comic Sans MS&#39;;COLOR:#000=
000">
<div>Seriously thinking of getting my moving coil tacho. upgraded to a mode=
rn=20
stepper motor type movement, retaining the original face and case.</div>
<div>Speedy Cables in Wales offer this.</div>
<div>So, wondering (UK listers ?) if anyone has had this done and any comme=
nts=20
about this type of conversion.</div>
<div>Are there perhaps any US companies that do this as well ?</div>
<div>Tkx</div><span><font color=3D"#888888">
<div>rg=20
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