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To: "'David Nock'" <healeydoc@gmail.com>, "'Oudesluys'" <coudesluijs@chello.nl>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes
From: "Simon Lachlan" <simon.lachlan@homecall.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2015 20:28:18 +0100
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Seems that you are describing Gunson=E2=80=99s Eazibleed kit. Still =
available.

Simon

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David =
Nock
Sent: 08 July 2015 16:29
To: Oudesluys; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes

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At one time there was a kit available that you put a adaptor cap on the =
reservoir and used then there was a hose with an adaptor the attached to =
a tire. You then used the pressure in the tire as a pressure bleeder.=20

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Have not seen one in a long time, this is that same theory as the =
pressure bleeder here in the shop.

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You could make on by using getting a new cap for you reservoir. Then use =
your old one and drill a hole and install an adaptor with hose. Then =
using a adaptor and  hose off a tire pump attach to the reservoir. Then =
go to each bleeder and bleed the system.=20

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David Nock
healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
209 948 8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com

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Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:31 AM

To: healeys@autox.team.net=20

Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes

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Hi Larry,

No offence taken at all. Did not even think of that. Donot worry, I =
cannot easily be offended anyway and I am always surprised that some on =
the list are a bit inflammable.
I often make comments that apply to classic cars in general and are not =
Healey specific. Many have other cars as well.

Cheers,
Kees Oudesluijs




Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 12:00:

Hi Kees, obviously I mistook this for a Healey specific list :) =
generalized comments can be misleading to those that look for good =
advise from the list. No offense intended.
Cheers
Larry Varley

On 8/07/2015 6:59 PM, Oudesluys wrote:

Hi Larry,
Not a rare occurrence in BN1, but a BN1 is a rare occurrence on its own =
in the car world ;-) . Most brake circuits are properly designed to make =
bleeding the system an easy straight forward job.
Same problems on some old Landrovers.
Cheers,
Kees Oudesluijs



Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 10:22:

Kees, this is not a rare occurrence in a BN1, stop and take a look at =
the BN1 front wheel cylinder layout. If the brakes are not de adjusted =
there is an air pocket in the wheel cylinders above the height of the =
bleed screw. The air will be very difficult to bleed out as it is =
trapped. I have advised many to do this and they found an immediate =
improvement in the bleeding process and improvement in pedal firmness.=20
Regards
Larry Varley

On 8/07/2015 4:44 PM, Oudesluys wrote:

I have used an Eezibleed or similar lightly pressurized system for over =
50 years and it has always worked for me on a very large range of =
vehicles.=20
A one man job that is done efficiently and quickly.
As remarked before, it is generally a good idea to adjust back your drum =
brakes and push back the calliper pistons (using e few small wedges =
between pads and discs) to minimise the volume in the brake cylinders =
and callipers if the bleed nipples are positioned in such a way that air =
can remain trapped in the cylinders or callipers, although this is a =
fairly rare occurrence.

Kees Oudesluijs









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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Seems that you are describing Gunson=E2=80=99s Eazibleed kit. Still =
available.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>David Nock<br><b>Sent:</b> 08 July 2015 16:29<br><b>To:</b> =
Oudesluys; healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] =
Bleeding brakes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif"'>At one =
time there was a kit available that you put a adaptor cap on the =
reservoir and used then there was a hose with an adaptor the attached to =
a tire. You then used the pressure in the tire as a pressure bleeder. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif"'>Have not seen one in a long =
time, this is that same theory as the pressure bleeder here in the =
shop.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif"'>You could make on by using =
getting a new cap for you reservoir. Then use your old one and drill a =
hole and install an adaptor with hose. Then using a adaptor and&nbsp; =
hose off a tire pump attach to the reservoir. Then go to each bleeder =
and bleed the system. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Century","serif"'>David Nock<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>20=
9 948 8767<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com";>www.britishcarspecialists.c=
om</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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/o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
<a href=3D"mailto:coudesluijs@chello.nl"; =
title=3D"coudesluijs@chello.nl">Oudesluys</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:31 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>To:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:whitesmoke'><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Subject:</sp=
an></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Re: =
[Healeys] Bleeding brakes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Larry,<br><br>No offence =
taken at all. Did not even think of that. Donot worry, I cannot easily =
be offended anyway and I am always surprised that some on the list are a =
bit inflammable.<br>I often make comments that apply to classic cars in =
general and are not Healey specific. Many have other cars as =
well.<br><br>Cheers,<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br><br><br>Larry Varley =
schreef op 8-7-2015 om 12:00:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi Kees, obviously I =
mistook this for a Healey specific list :) generalized comments can be =
misleading to those that look for good advise from the list. No offense =
intended.<br>Cheers<br>Larry Varley<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On =
8/07/2015 6:59 PM, Oudesluys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Hi =
Larry,<br>Not a rare occurrence in BN1, but a BN1 is a rare occurrence =
on its own in the car world<span class=3Dmoz-smiley-s3> ;-) </span>. =
Most brake circuits are properly designed to make bleeding the system an =
easy straight forward job.<br>Same problems on some old =
Landrovers.<br>Cheers,<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br><br>Larry Varley =
schreef op 8-7-2015 om 10:22:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Kees, this is not a rare =
occurrence in a BN1, stop and take a look at the BN1 front wheel =
cylinder layout. If the brakes are not de adjusted there is an air =
pocket in the wheel cylinders above the height of the bleed screw. The =
air will be very difficult to bleed out as it is trapped. I have advised =
many to do this and they found an immediate improvement in the bleeding =
process and improvement in pedal firmness. <br>Regards<br>Larry =
Varley<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On 8/07/2015 4:44 PM, =
Oudesluys wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I have used an Eezibleed or =
similar lightly pressurized system for over 50 years and it has always =
worked for me on a very large range of vehicles. <br>A one man job that =
is done efficiently and quickly.<br>As remarked before, it is generally =
a good idea to adjust back your drum brakes and push back the calliper =
pistons (using e few small wedges between pads and discs) to minimise =
the volume in the brake cylinders and callipers if the bleed nipples are =
positioned in such a way that air can remain trapped in the cylinders or =
callipers, although this is a fairly rare occurrence.<br><br>Kees =
Oudesluijs<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p =
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