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Thanks Scott for sharing in detail, most interesting !
I have had a Gripper in the TR3 for the last 10 years. No need to =
rebuild so far despite the many track, hillclimb and fast motorway and =
smaller roads driving miles. Very smooth and you can set it up the way =
you need/like.
One additional benefit : there is no friction material on the plates (as =
the usual Salisbury have), so the wear is very limited. Had I had a =
Salisbury I would have replaced the plates a few times already.
A presto !
Alex Camoletti
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De : Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] De la part de Scott Janzen =
via Fot
Envoy=C3=A9 : vendredi 21 juin 2024 17:26
=C3=80 : 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
Objet : [Fot] Triumph GT6 Differential - LS versus welded
=20
You might recall I posed a question about this a year+ ago. Jason came =
down strongly in favor of welded, others had different opinions.
I ended up buying a Gripper limited slip unit out of england and put it =
in (clutch type). I=E2=80=99m very pleased with the unit - I told them =
how I use the car, approx HP, tires, and they basically set it up for =
maximum pressure. I can push the car around the paddock more easily, =
but I=E2=80=99m getting no inside wheel spin in corners, no matter what =
corner or speed, so that seems good.
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Lap Times - the real test. I ran last year with the welded unit at both =
Summit Point and Lime Rock.
My best time at Summit was a 1:30.8 in 2023, at Lime Rock it was a =
1:07.2
Last year the engine was freshly rebuilt over =E2=80=9922-=E2=80=9923 =
winter. Tires were new Speedsters for Summit Point, slightly less new =
by the time I got to Lime Rock.
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This year my best time at Summit was a 1:30.3, Lime Rock 1:07.9.
Engine is the same, probably somewhat tired after six race weekends =
(I=E2=80=99m actually pulling it now to change rod bearings).
Tires (speedsters) were fresh for Summit again this year.
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Conclusion? The driving style is definitely different, and I feel like =
I can place the car more precisely with the LS. I think it helps me a =
bit with speed in the Carousel at Summit. However, there appears to be =
no big difference in lap times. If I=E2=80=99d been consistently faster =
at both tracks I=E2=80=99d make more of a case for it, but that was not =
the clear outcome. However, the lack of a fresh engine this year is =
probably good for something. It will get a full rebuild or an alternate =
new engine for next year and the east coast Kastner cup, so =
we=E2=80=99ll see what that data shows.
=20
The jury is still out, but right now, I=E2=80=99m not making a strong =
case for spending $1,100 for the LS. It=E2=80=99s fine, but not =
apparently inherently superior by much of a margin. I like turning the =
car into the turns, rather than throwing it in to get the rear sliding =
like I did with the welded unit, but I can adapt either way.=20
=20
I do like the Gripper, it has seamless engagement, seems to be excellent =
quality, no wheel spin like I hear from Quaiffe users. BTW, I did have =
to get out the air grinder and do some minor clearancing on the diff =
housing. It=E2=80=99s a tight fit, and there was minor interference =
with bolt heads and the circumference of the diff.
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More than you wanted to know!!!
=20
Scott
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>Thanks Scott for =
sharing in detail, most interesting !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>I have had a =
Gripper in the TR3 for the last 10 years. No need to rebuild so far =
despite the many track, hillclimb and fast motorway and smaller roads =
driving miles. Very smooth and you can set it up the way you =
need/like.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>One additional =
benefit : there is no friction material on the plates (as the usual =
Salisbury have), so the wear is very limited. Had I had a Salisbury I =
would have replaced the plates a few times =
already.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>A =
presto !<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'>Alex =
Camoletti<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond","serif";color:#44546A'><o:p> </o:p><=
/span></p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DFR =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>De :</s=
pan></b><span lang=3DFR =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fot =
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>De la part de</b> Scott Janzen =
via Fot<br><b>Envoy=C3=A9 :</b> vendredi 21 juin 2024 =
17:26<br><b>=C3=80 :</b> 'Friends of Triumph' =
Triumph<br><b>Objet :</b> [Fot] Triumph GT6 Differential - LS =
versus welded<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>You might =
recall I posed a question about this a year+ ago. Jason came down =
strongly in favor of welded, others had different =
opinions.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I ended up buying a =
Gripper limited slip unit out of england and put it in (clutch type). =
I=E2=80=99m very pleased with the unit - I told them how I use the =
car, approx HP, tires, and they basically set it up for maximum =
pressure. I can push the car around the paddock more easily, but =
I=E2=80=99m getting no inside wheel spin in corners, no matter what =
corner or speed, so that seems good.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Lap Times - the real test. I ran last year with =
the welded unit at both Summit Point and Lime =
Rock.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>My best time at =
Summit was a 1:30.8 in 2023, at Lime Rock it was a =
1:07.2<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Last year the =
engine was freshly rebuilt over =E2=80=9922-=E2=80=9923 winter. =
Tires were new Speedsters for Summit Point, slightly less new by =
the time I got to Lime Rock.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>This year my best time at Summit was a 1:30.3, Lime =
Rock 1:07.9.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Engine is the =
same, probably somewhat tired after six race weekends (I=E2=80=99m =
actually pulling it now to change rod =
bearings).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Tires =
(speedsters) were fresh for Summit again this =
year.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Conclusion? The driving style is definitely =
different, and I feel like I can place the car more precisely with the =
LS. I think it helps me a bit with speed in the Carousel at Summit. =
However, there appears to be no big difference in lap times. =
If I=E2=80=99d been consistently faster at both tracks I=E2=80=99d =
make more of a case for it, but that was not the clear outcome. =
However, the lack of a fresh engine this year is probably good for =
something. It will get a full rebuild or an alternate new engine =
for next year and the east coast Kastner cup, so we=E2=80=99ll see what =
that data shows.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The jury is still out, but right now, I=E2=80=99m not =
making a strong case for spending $1,100 for the LS. =
It=E2=80=99s fine, but not apparently inherently superior by much =
of a margin. I like turning the car into the turns, rather than =
throwing it in to get the rear sliding like I did with the welded unit, =
but I can adapt either way. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
do like the Gripper, it has seamless engagement, seems to be excellent =
quality, no wheel spin like I hear from Quaiffe users. BTW, I did =
have to get out the air grinder and do some minor clearancing on the =
diff housing. It=E2=80=99s a tight fit, and there was minor =
interference with bolt heads and the circumference of the =
diff.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>More than you wanted to =
know!!!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Scott<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>
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