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Sorry to be late on this. Since we were one of the originators of this
product we are very familiar with it. The Denso based gear reduction
starter disengages from the ring gear when the engine starts, unlike the
original Lucas starter which disengages when the engine "fires".Â
Because of this, the starter pinion needs to engage 40 - 60% of the ring
gear, not the entire ring gear. If entire ring gear is engage, it is
possible for the starter not to disengage and be spun at engine speed.
This will trash the starter. Our units are ring gear and flywheel
specific. Example, there are 2 different TR3 ring gears. They differ by
one tooth so a TR3 that used an original 9 tooth pinion gear starter
(early car) cannot use the starter for the later TR3 or TR4 that had a
10 tooth pinion gear. Ted
On 10/28/2023 3:18 PM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot wrote:
> Thanks to all for your help.
>
> Update: Â I have pulled starter and bench tested it and it looks like
> it is working correctly. The pinion gear is moving out and spinning.
>
> Inspection of pinion gear shows contact pattern at less than 50%.
> Inspection of ring gear shows same patters. It looks like the pinion
> gear is not coming out far enough or failing to mesh with ring gear.
>
> Has anyone seen this?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:39 AM, tr4racing@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> there are several gear types on the flywheel and the gear on the
>> starter needs to match.
>>
>> There are pull push types, or push pull types, the engage flange need
>> to fit and also the teeth distance and such stuff.
>>
>> Besides that, those starters are quite reliable.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> *From:*Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *DENNIS WALJE
>> via Fot
>> *Sent:* Friday, October 27, 2023 2:48 AM
>> *To:* Amici Triumphi <fot@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* [Fot] Fwd: Starter
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From:* DENNIS WALJE <walje@sbcglobal.net>
>> *Date:* October 26, 2023 at 7:15:07 PM CDT
>> *To:* fot-owner@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* *Starter*
>>
>> Friends
>>
>> Has anyone had a problem with the Wosp gear reduction starter? Â I
>> installed one on a new engine and after 15/20 starts, the starter
>> spins but does not engage the ring gear. Battery voltage is
>> 12.60, engine is properly grounded, all cables, solenoid and
>> wiring are new.
>>
>> Any recommendations on a gear reduction starter?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dennis Walje
>> 68 GT6
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>
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Ted Schumacher
tedtsimx@bright.net
http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
305 S. Jefferson St.
Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada)
Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sorry to be late on this. Since we were
one of the originators of this product we are very familiar with
it. The Denso based gear reduction starter disengages from the
ring gear when the engine starts, unlike the original Lucas
starter which disengages when the engine "fires". Because of
this, the starter pinion needs to engage 40 - 60% of the ring
gear, not the entire ring gear. If entire ring gear is engage, it
is possible for the starter not to disengage and be spun at engine
speed. This will trash the starter. Our units are ring gear and
flywheel specific. Example, there are 2 different TR3 ring gears.
They differ by one tooth so a TR3 that used an original 9 tooth
pinion gear starter (early car) cannot use the starter for the
later TR3 or TR4 that had a 10 tooth pinion gear. Ted<br>
<br>
<br>
On 10/28/2023 3:18 PM, DENNIS WALJE via Fot wrote:<br>
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Thanks to all for your help.Â
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Update: Â I have pulled starter and bench tested it and it
looks like it is working correctly. The pinion gear is moving
out and spinning. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Inspection of pinion gear shows contact pattern at less than
50%. Inspection of ring gear shows same patters. It looks like
the pinion gear is not coming out far enough or failing to mesh
with ring gear. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Has anyone seen this?<br>
<br>
<div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<blockquote type="cite">On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:39 AM,
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">there are several gear types on the
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<p class="MsoNormal">Besides that, those starters are
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href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";><fot-bounces@autox.team.net></a>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>DENNIS WALJE via Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 27, 2023 2:48 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Amici Triumphi
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
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DENNIS WALJE <<a
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moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">walje@sbcglobal.net</a>><br>
<b>Date:</b> October 26, 2023 at 7:15:07 PM CDT<br>
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href="mailto:fot-owner@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">fot-owner@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> <b>Starter</b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Friends<br>
<br>
Has anyone had a problem with the Wosp gear
reduction starter? Â I installed one on a new engine
and after 15/20 starts, the starter spins but does
not engage the ring gear. Battery voltage is 12.60,
engine is properly grounded, all cables, solenoid
and wiring are new. <br>
<br>
Any recommendations on a gear reduction starter?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Dennis Walje<br>
68 GT6 <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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Ted Schumacher
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:tedtsimx@bright.net";>tedtsimx@bright.net</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com";>http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com</a>
305 S. Jefferson St.
Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada)
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