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To: rjl6n@cstone.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fuel injection
From: "J.C. Hassall via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 16:25:01 -0400
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Hi John,=20

Good info, tnx. I=E2=80=99ll=E2=80=A6 hassall =E2=80=A6 them again.=20

Fingers crossed

jim

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> On Jul 28, 2023, at 3:49 PM, R. John Lye <rjl6n@cstone.net> wrote:
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> Hi Jim,
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> It can't have been 14 years since they last sold one, because I bought one=
 from
> them about a year and a half ago.=20
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> John =20
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> On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:22:15 -0400, "J.C. Hassall via Fot" <fot@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
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> Hi TeriAnn,
> =20
> That's great info, very extensive.  Months ago I asked ITG UK if they had o=
ne in stock (NLA in the "colonies").  They said that they had no stock (last=
 sale was 14 years ago), so it would be bespoke and cost 71 UK pounds plus c=
arriage, etc. Needless to say I declined.
> =20
> All the best=20
> =20
> jim
> =20
>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 11:39=E2=80=AFAM TeriAnn J. Wakeman via Fot <fot@=
autox.team.net> wrote:
>> Here are a couple of possible resources for people trying to piece
>> together an EFI system with a focus for TR3-4A engines.
>>=20
>> Before TWM went out of business they offered DCOEs, intake manifolds,
>> and major EFI conversion components, including throttle bodies based up
>> the DCOE configuration.
>>=20
>> When TWM went out of business they sold their EFI business or
>> transformed into Borla Induction
>>=20
>> https://www.borlainduction.com
>>=20
>> Who produces the DCOE based throttle bodies and other major EFI component=
s.
>>=20
>> TWM sold their intake manifold business to Pierce Manifolds, who still
>> offers the TWM DCOE conversion kit for the TR four.
>>=20
>> https://www.piercemanifolds.com/TRIUMPH_TR3_TR4_HIGH_PORT_WEBER_40_DCOE_p=
/k131.htm
>>=20
>> So you can still get the manifolds, linkage, EFI throttle bodies,
>> position sensors & such, all originally designed to work together as a
>> system.
>>=20
>> itg makes an air filter with holes properly spaced for the TR four using
>> TWM/Pierce manifolds and DCOEs or TWM/Borla throttle bodies. The
>> critical component is the back plate which I don't think is still being
>> mentioned in their web site. If you want to use a itg air filter (I have
>> one on my TR3 with TWM manifolds & DCOEs) ask for back plate part number
>> 28-JC-50.
>>=20
>> itg has a formula (for their filters only) that calculates the minimum
>> distance between the horn opening and the facing element for no negative
>> affect in air flow. The minimum distance is calculated by dividing the
>> inner diameter of the air horn by four.
>>=20
>> I think this is probably enough to piece together a mechanical fuel
>> injection system & put an air filter on it. No idea about a computer to
>> add the "E".
>>=20
>> TeriAnn
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi John,&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Good info=
, tnx. I=E2=80=99ll=E2=80=A6 hassall =E2=80=A6 them again.&nbsp;</div><div><=
br></div><div>Fingers crossed</div><div><br></div><div>jim<br><br><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div>=E2=80=94</div><div>jim &nbsp; &nbsp;W4BEA</div>Fat-thumbed from m=
y iPhone7</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 28, 202=
3, at 3:49 PM, R. John Lye &lt;rjl6n@cstone.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquo=
te></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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<div class=3D"userStyles" style=3D" font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; col=
or: #000000;">Hi Jim,<br>
<br>
It can't have been 14 years since they last sold one, because I bought one f=
rom<br>
them about a year and a half ago.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
John
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r>

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<span>On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 13:22:15 -0400, "J.C. Hassall via Fot" &lt;fot@aut=
ox.team.net&gt; wrote:</span><br>
&nbsp;
<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi TeriAnn,
<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>That's great info, very extensive.&nbsp; Months ago I asked ITG UK if t=
hey had one in stock (NLA in the "colonies").&nbsp; They said that they had n=
o stock (last sale was 14 years ago), so it would be bespoke and cost 71 UK p=
ounds plus carriage, etc. Needless to say I declined.</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>All the best&nbsp;</div>

<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>jim</div>
</div>
&nbsp;

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<div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 11:39=E2=80=AF=
AM TeriAnn J. Wakeman via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Here are a couple of possib=
le resources for people trying to piece<br>
together an EFI system with a focus for TR3-4A engines.<br>
<br>
Before TWM went out of business they offered DCOEs, intake manifolds,<br>
and major EFI conversion components, including throttle bodies based up<br>
the DCOE configuration.<br>
<br>
When TWM went out of business they sold their EFI business or<br>
transformed into Borla Induction<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.borlainduction.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_bla=
nk">https://www.borlainduction.com</a><br>
<br>
Who produces the DCOE based throttle bodies and other major EFI components.<=
br>
<br>
TWM sold their intake manifold business to Pierce Manifolds, who still<br>
offers the TWM DCOE conversion kit for the TR four.<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://www.piercemanifolds.com/TRIUMPH_TR3_TR4_HIGH_PORT_WEBER_4=
0_DCOE_p/k131.htm" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://www.piercema=
nifolds.com/TRIUMPH_TR3_TR4_HIGH_PORT_WEBER_40_DCOE_p/k131.htm</a><br>
<br>
So you can still get the manifolds, linkage, EFI throttle bodies,<br>
position sensors &amp; such, all originally designed to work together as a<b=
r>
system.<br>
<br>
itg makes an air filter with holes properly spaced for the TR four using<br>=

TWM/Pierce manifolds and DCOEs or TWM/Borla throttle bodies. The<br>
critical component is the back plate which I don't think is still being<br>
mentioned in their web site. If you want to use a itg air filter (I have<br>=

one on my TR3 with TWM manifolds &amp; DCOEs) ask for back plate part number=
<br>
28-JC-50.<br>
<br>
itg has a formula (for their filters only) that calculates the minimum<br>
distance between the horn opening and the facing element for no negative<br>=

affect in air flow. The minimum distance is calculated by dividing the<br>
inner diameter of the air horn by four.<br>
<br>
I think this is probably enough to piece together a mechanical fuel<br>
injection system &amp; put an air filter on it. No idea about a computer to<=
br>
add the "E".<br>
<br>
TeriAnn<br>
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