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JE has been my go-to for decades, good stuff, never a piston-related issue=
...
Glen Efinger
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-----Original Message-----
From: Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Feb 3, 2023 9:27 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons
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OUGH the JE pistons were.=C2=A0 I had one chew up and spit out a valve head=
that broke off.=C2=A0 A little damage to the cylinder wall, a little damag=
e to the head (which uncle jack repaired for me), and the top of the piston=
looked like the surface of the moon.=C2=A0 Repaired head and cylinder wall=
, installed a new piston, back in business.=C2=A0 I dropped a valve on a st=
ock style piston and it was game over for the whole lower end =E2=80=93 sha=
ttered piston, broken rod, big hole in the block. =C2=A0 Are ALL the pisto=
ns from the aftermarket (JE, Wiseco, etc.) that tough?=C2=A0 This isn=E2=80=
=99t an ad for JE =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m legitimately interested in the expe=
rience of others here. =C2=A0 Scott (B.) =C2=A0 From: Fot <fot-bounces@au=
tox.team.net> On Behalf OfErik Jacobsen via Fot
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2023 6:42 AM
To: Dave Riddle <dave@microworks.net>; Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Riddle via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons =C2=A0 Dave, I have a long and unpleasant tale =
about J&E I attempted to order for my Sprite race engine. After many months=
they crapped out and I went to Wiseco. The originally said 12 weeks for cu=
stom made, coated flat-tops. They then updated it to 6 weeks, and finally d=
elivered the pistons in just 3 weeks! They were also very easy to deal with=
regarding the specifics of the engine. I have since ordered forged 89mm co=
ated set for my TR3 race car (through BFE), and again they were way faster =
than they originally claimed. Good looking parts and very good to deal with=
. As an interesting aside, they seem to have purchased J&E, so maybe they w=
ill get better?=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cheers, Jake =C2=A0 On Thursday, February 2,=
2023 at 05:44:11 PM CST, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 My JE order took 15 weeks last year. FYI=E2=80=A6 Brad Eells=
Sent from my iPhone =C2=A0=20
On Feb 2, 2023, at 1:52 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=
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Well the Machine shop that can work on my TR3 engine said they are 4 months=
out so that certainly gives me time to order Pistons.=C2=A0 For Street use=
and only the occasional Track day I have time to see about ordering from J=
E or Wisco rather than the flat top pistons from Moss that are manufactured=
in India (even if they are sent to the UK where they are machined).=C2=A0 =
Does anyone have specs for a piston I could see about getting made or can r=
ecommend a set?=C2=A0 My Engine does have an Isky Cam (not sure which one b=
ased on the Cam Chart that went around the other week). =C2=A0 Currently th=
e car does have flat top pistons in 87mm.=C2=A0 Any real concerns moving up=
to an 89m?=C2=A0 I have heard cooling can be an issue and the car does hav=
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<div> <font size=3D"2">JE has been my go-to for decades, good stuff, never =
a piston-related issue...</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"2">Glen Efinger</font><br>
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size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
To: FOT@autox.team.net FOT@autox.team.net <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Fri, Feb 3, 2023 9:27 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Pistons<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal">On the other hand, I was very impress=
ed with how TOUGH the JE pistons were. I had one chew up and spit out=
a valve head that broke off. A little damage to the cylinder wall, a=
little damage to the head (which uncle jack repaired for me),
and the top of the piston looked like the surface of the moon. Repai=
red head and cylinder wall, installed a new piston, back in business. =
I dropped a valve on a stock style piston and it was game over for the who=
le lower end =E2=80=93 shattered piston, broken rod,
big hole in the block.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"> </div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal">Are ALL the pistons from the aftermar=
ket (JE, Wiseco, etc.) that tough? This isn=E2=80=99t an ad for JE =
=E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m legitimately interested in the experience of others h=
ere.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"> </div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</div>
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0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot <fot-bounces@auto=
x.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Erik Jacobsen via Fot<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 3, 2023 6:42 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Dave Riddle <dave@microworks.net>; Brad Eells <tr4abrad=
@gmail.com><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> Dave Riddle via Fot <fot@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none"=
>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Pistons</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">Dave,</span></div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">I have a long and unpleasant tale about J&E I attem=
pted to order for my Sprite race engine. After many months they crapped out=
and I went to Wiseco. The originally said 12
weeks for custom made, coated flat-tops. They then updated it to 6 weeks, =
and finally delivered the pistons in just 3 weeks! They were also very easy=
to deal with regarding the specifics of the engine. I have since ordered f=
orged 89mm coated set for my TR3
race car (through BFE), and again they were way faster than they originall=
y claimed. Good looking parts and very good to deal with. As an interesting=
aside, they seem to have purchased J&E, so maybe they will get better?=
</span></div>
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</div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;"> </span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">Cheers,</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;">Jake</span></div>
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family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 05:44:11=
PM CST, Brad Eells via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" sha=
pe=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
</span></div>
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family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></div>
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family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </span></div>
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<div>
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">My JE ord=
er took 15 weeks last year. FYI=E2=80=A6</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Brad Eells</span></div>
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<div>
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family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Sent from my iPhone</span></div>
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</div>
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style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"> </=
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<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv7914867953MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Feb 2,=
2023, at 1:52 PM, Dave Riddle via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener nore=
ferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</s=
pan></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7914867953ydp8c480b22yiv6619125600msonormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Well the Machin=
e shop that can work on my TR3 engine said they are 4 months out so that ce=
rtainly gives me time to order Pistons. For
Street use and only the occasional Track day I have time to see about orde=
ring from JE or Wisco rather than the flat top pistons from Moss that are m=
anufactured in India (even if they are sent to the UK where they are machin=
ed). Does anyone have specs for
a piston I could see about getting made or can recommend a set? My E=
ngine does have an Isky Cam (not sure which one based on the Cam Chart that=
went around the other week).</span></div>
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=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Currently the c=
ar does have flat top pistons in 87mm. Any real concerns moving up to=
an 89m? I have heard cooling can be an issue
and the car does have a Wizard Radiator and an Oil Cooler</span></div>
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