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Jack,
Thanks for that bit of firsthand history from someone who was there!
As a teenager in the 70s, my Dad would take me to Summit Point for the races=
and he would volunteer as a corner worker and signed me up to be a timer (s=
top watches in those days). My first official solo stint as a timer I was r=
andomly assigned a Triumph (and some other car). I was stoked, since I was a=
lready a =E2=80=9CTriumph guy=E2=80=9D, even though I wasn=E2=80=99t driving=
yet. Anyway, I got still more excited when I found out Paul Newman was the=
driver (that=E2=80=99s why I can=E2=80=99t remember the other car). After t=
he pace lap and green flag Newman was up front & I was Very focused on not s=
crewed up! After the first lap I was disappointed when Newman came into the=
pits, everyone was wondering what went wrong with the car. His guys/friend=
s came out and pulled the beer cooler out from the cockpit and he charged ba=
ck onto the track. Seems they left the cooler in the car from happy hour th=
e night before. Anyway, he did make up the time and I believe was in the to=
p 5 or so cars by race end. That=E2=80=99s when I got the bug to race...it j=
ust took another 40+ years to get there!!
Terry
> On Jan 19, 2021, at 15:10, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Hi Henry. Nice drive. Your car is really handling well (which is saying s=
omething for a TR-3). When I raced my TR-4A I had independent rear suspensi=
on, which I always felt gave me an advantage. I don't know how you do it wi=
th the solid axle.
>=20
> Reminded me of watching Brian Fuerstenau in a TR-3 (#33) at Watkins Glen. =
Would have been the summer of 1964, maybe '65. He was in F Production whil=
e his teammate, Bob Tullius was in the #44 TR-4 in E Production. Eventually=
the TR-3 got moved to EP and the TR-4 to DP, until the TR-6 came along. Wh=
en it couldn't keep up with the 240Z, they moved the TR-6 to DP and 2 years l=
ater the TR-4 to join the TR-3 in EP. The first 2 years the TR-6 was in DP,=
it won the national championship, first with Group44, then with Paul Newman=
.
>=20
> Sorry about the history lesson. Just reminiscing.
>=20
> Jack
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> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: Mike Jackson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: yellow04 <yellow04@tr4racer.com>; "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team=
.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021, 1:11:06 PM EST
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Ole' Blue at Summit Pt with Henry Frye
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> Great video Henry! And all wonderful races. We all live for weekends lik=
e that.
> I was particularly entertained by watching the key fob on the glovebox key=
. You should label it in g's
>=20
> Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Jan 19, 2021 12:02 PM
> >To: fot@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: [Fot] Bill Dentinger
> >
> >Bill meant a lot of things to a lot of people. One thing for sure, if=20
> >you had the pleasure to meet Bill, you certainly did not forget him. I=20=
> >have many fond memories, like sitting on the grid as some event in the=20=
> >broiling heat waiting our turn to take the track and hearing Bill, at=20
> >the top of his lungs, singing some completely inappropriate song to no=20=
> >one in particular. Or at a huge SVRA event, hundred of drivers are=20
> >intently listening to Jack Woehrle or Carl Jensen trying to get through=20=
> >a drivers meeting and Bill would just heckle the crap out of them. Not=20=
> >privately, mind you, but in a voice that everybody in the county would=20=
> >hear. And it was hysterical.
> >
> >Bill was a racer at heart. The number of events that the Beady Eye=20
> >Vintage Triumph Racing team ran annually was impressive. Remember Bill=20=
> >had Old Blue, Bob Wismer had the #4 blue TR4 (now campaigned by Paul=20
> >Ricco), and between them they co-owned the Thunderbolt, an extremely=20
> >limited production special from Tornado Cars, based on the TR3. They=20
> >would trade off season to season driving the Thunderbolt and their=20
> >respective TR. There was no expense spared on the preparation of either=20=
> >his or Bob's cars. Any discussion of the Beady Eye team is incomplete=20
> >without mentioning Don Brick, the third member of the team. Don raced a=20=
> >white TR4 with red wire wheels, and might have been the speediest of the=20=
> >group, I believe the last year he ran was 2005.
> >
> >Bill was quite proud of the fact that Old Blue, a 1956 TR3, was the most=20=
> >period correct vintage racer on track in the country. While I never=20
> >researched it, nobody who heard the story doubted it. The amount of=20
> >Triumph Competition Department equipment in the car was impressive. A=20
> >race car since new, Bill was only the second racer to track the car.
> >
> >At some point over the course our friendship I must have mentioned to=20
> >Bill how much I liked Old Blue, and would like to own the car when he is=20=
> >ready to hang up the helmet for the last time. (I am confident alcohol=20=
> >was involved in this conversation!) This turned into Bill selling the=20
> >car to me back in 2014. My trip to Wisconsin to pick up the car and=20
> >spares was both delightful and melancholy, you knew it was the end of an=20=
> >era. But Bill had high hopes I would keep the flame alive. My intent was=20=
> >to keep the car as period correct as possible, but make it safe and fun.=20=
> >I think I have struck a good compromise, some of those Competition=20
> >Department goodies have made way for more suitable replacements, but for=20=
> >the most part the car remains remarkably period correct.
> >
> >Every time I had a race weekend with the car I would email Bill and tell=20=
> >him how things went. We exchanged mail and it was obvious he was=20
> >genuinely excited to see Old Blue still on track, doing better and=20
> >better. It all came together at the Jefferson 500 at Summit Point in=20
> >2019, it was one of those weekends we all dream of. Picture perfect=20
> >weather, and you get grouped with a bunch of racers that are great=20
> >competition and you are running with fast guys up front. Then the stars=20=
> >align and you take first in both feature races. I strung together some=20=
> >in-car footage from three sessions that weekend and sent it to Bill. He=20=
> >and his son Dick watched it on the "Big Screen", I got the impression he=20=
> >was as excited as I was!
> >
> >In memory of Bill, I am sharing a view that he enjoyed for years,=20
> >looking over the bonnet of Old Blue. You will be missed, my friend...
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D-bCcXLlOR-k
> >
> >Henry Frye
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack,</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for that bit of firsthand history from s=
omeone who was there!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">As a t=
eenager in the 70s, my Dad would take me to Summit Point for the races and h=
e would volunteer as a corner worker and signed me up to be a timer (stop wa=
tches in those days). My first official solo stint as a timer I was ra=
ndomly assigned a Triumph (and some other car). I was stoked, since I w=
as already a =E2=80=9CTriumph guy=E2=80=9D, even though I wasn=E2=80=99t dri=
ving yet. Anyway, I got still more excited when I found out Paul Newma=
n was the driver (that=E2=80=99s why I can=E2=80=99t remember the other car)=
. After the pace lap and green flag Newman was up front & I was Ve=
ry focused on not screwed up! After the first lap I was disappointed w=
hen Newman came into the pits, everyone was wondering what went wrong with t=
he car. His guys/friends came out and pulled the beer cooler out from t=
he cockpit and he charged back onto the track. Seems they left the coo=
ler in the car from happy hour the night before. Anyway, he did make u=
p the time and I believe was in the top 5 or so cars by race end. That=
=E2=80=99s when I got the bug to race...it just took another 40+ years to ge=
t there!!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Terry</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 19, 2021, at 15:10, Jack Whe=
eler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp4e3bfa2dya=
hoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-=
serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi Henry. Nice drive.&n=
bsp; Your car is really handling well (which is saying something for a TR-3)=
. When I raced my TR-4A I had independent rear suspension, which I alw=
ays felt gave me an advantage. I don't know how you do it with the sol=
id axle.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false">Reminded me of watching Brian Fuerstenau in a TR-3=
(#33) at Watkins Glen. Would have been the summer of 1964, maybe '65.=
He was in F Production while his teammate, Bob Tullius was in the #44=
TR-4 in E Production. Eventually the TR-3 got moved to EP and the TR-=
4 to DP, until the TR-6 came along. When it couldn't keep up with the 2=
40Z, they moved the TR-6 to DP and 2 years later the TR-4 to join the TR-3 i=
n EP. The first 2 years the TR-6 was in DP, it won the national champi=
onship, first with Group44, then with Paul Newman.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Sorr=
y about the history lesson. Just reminiscing.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br=
></div><div><br></div>
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<div>----- Forwarded Message -----</div>
<div><b>From:</b> Mike Jackson via Fot <fot@autox.team.ne=
t></div><div><b>To:</b> yellow04 <yellow04@tr4racer.com>; "fot@auto=
x.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net></div><div><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, Janua=
ry 19, 2021, 1:11:06 PM EST</div><div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Ole' Blue at=
Summit Pt with Henry Frye</div><div><br></div>
<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Great video Henry! And all wonde=
rful races. We all live for weekends like that.<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">I was particularly entertained by watching the key fob on the glovebox k=
ey. You should label it in g's<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Mike<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">-----Original Message-----<br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">>From: yellow04 via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@a=
utox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>>=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>Sent: Jan 19, 2021 12:02 PM<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">>To: <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" targ=
et=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>Subject: R=
e: [Fot] Bill Dentinger<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">>Bill meant a lot of things to a lot of people. One thing for sure, i=
f <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>you had the pleasure to meet Bill, you cert=
ainly did not forget him. I <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>have many fond me=
mories, like sitting on the grid as some event in the <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">>broiling heat waiting our turn to take the track and hearing Bill, a=
t <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>the top of his lungs, singing some complete=
ly inappropriate song to no <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>one in particular=
. Or at a huge SVRA event, hundred of drivers are <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>>intently listening to Jack Woehrle or Carl Jensen trying to get through=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>a drivers meeting and Bill would just heckle=
the crap out of them. Not <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>privately, mind yo=
u, but in a voice that everybody in the county would <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">>hear. And it was hysterical.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">>Bill was a racer at heart. The number of events t=
hat the Beady Eye <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>Vintage Triumph Racing team=
ran annually was impressive. Remember Bill <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>h=
ad Old Blue, Bob Wismer had the #4 blue TR4 (now campaigned by Paul <br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">>Ricco), and between them they co-owned the Thunderbol=
t, an extremely <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>limited production special fr=
om Tornado Cars, based on the TR3. They <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>would=
trade off season to season driving the Thunderbolt and their <br></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr">>respective TR. There was no expense spared on the preparati=
on of either <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>his or Bob's cars. Any discussio=
n of the Beady Eye team is incomplete <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>without=
mentioning Don Brick, the third member of the team. Don raced a <br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">>white TR4 with red wire wheels, and might have been the s=
peediest of the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>group, I believe the last yea=
r he ran was 2005.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
>Bill was quite proud of the fact that Old Blue, a 1956 TR3, was the most=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>period correct vintage racer on track in the=
country. While I never <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>researched it, nobody=
who heard the story doubted it. The amount of <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;Triumph Competition Department equipment in the car was impressive. A <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">>race car since new, Bill was only the second race=
r to track the car.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>>At some point over the course our friendship I must have mentioned to <=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>Bill how much I liked Old Blue, and would like=
to own the car when he is <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>ready to hang up t=
he helmet for the last time. (I am confident alcohol <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">>was involved in this conversation!) This turned into Bill selling th=
e <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>car to me back in 2014. My trip to Wisconsi=
n to pick up the car and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>spares was both deli=
ghtful and melancholy, you knew it was the end of an <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">>era. But Bill had high hopes I would keep the flame alive. My intent=
was <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>to keep the car as period correct as pos=
sible, but make it safe and fun. <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>I think I ha=
ve struck a good compromise, some of those Competition <br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">>Department goodies have made way for more suitable replacements, b=
ut for <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>the most part the car remains remarkab=
ly period correct.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
>Every time I had a race weekend with the car I would email Bill and tell=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>him how things went. We exchanged mail and i=
t was obvious he was <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>genuinely excited to see=
Old Blue still on track, doing better and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>be=
tter. It all came together at the Jefferson 500 at Summit Point in <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">>2019, it was one of those weekends we all dream of. Pi=
cture perfect <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>weather, and you get grouped wi=
th a bunch of racers that are great <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>competiti=
on and you are running with fast guys up front. Then the stars <br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">>align and you take first in both feature races. I strung t=
ogether some <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>in-car footage from three sessio=
ns that weekend and sent it to Bill. He <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>and h=
is son Dick watched it on the "Big Screen", I got the impression he <br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">>was as excited as I was!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>In memory of Bill, I am sharing a view that=
he enjoyed for years, <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>looking over the bonne=
t of Old Blue. You will be missed, my friend...<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&g=
t;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><a href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D=
-bCcXLlOR-k" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watc=
h?v=3D-bCcXLlOR-k</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">>Henry Frye<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">>____________________________=
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