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To: Paul Ricco <paulricco@att.net>, FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Shop Safety Question
From: Jason Sukey via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 15:34:36 -0500
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Paul,
Beyond the "minimum code requirement" extinguisher's that get inspected and
tagged annually, I also keep a 2.5 gallon pressurized AFFF extinguisher and
a 2.5 gallon water extinguisher charged and ready at my shop.

The township fire inspector recommend the AFFF for fuel and oil type fires,
and he also stated it can be used to pre-treat a fuel spill while you clean
it up to reduce the chances of a fire starting.

He also recommended the water extinguisher near my welding area to knock
down small flare ups.

I also make it a point to never leave until any welding or grinding work
has cooled completely.

I also disconnect the battery in vehicles during storage.


When draining or filling a fuel tank, I roll the vehicle outside if
possible.

Thankfully, I've never had a chance to test any of these items!

Jason

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021, 1:32 PM Paul Ricco via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:

> FOT,
>
> I have been lucky to work in some very well run industrial environments
> with world class safety equipment.  As we know, the stuff costs money and a
> lot of people work without most of it in their own environments.
>
> We have been updating a lot of items in the areas that we work on car and
> car parts.  It is fun to spend money on tools and equipment.  However,
> safety equipment is not always as fun.  Near where we live, two pretty
> smart people have had fires damage their garages and parts of their houses
> before the fire department could arrive.  While I was running large car
> dealerships and body shops, I can tell you that fire extinguishers did need
> to be used from time to time.  Fortunately we had them and never needed to
> make a call to the fire department, because the right things were in the
> right places.
>
> Therefore, we just upgraded all of our safety equipment.  Including:
>
> 1.  Splatter/spark screens for areas that we weld or grind
> 2.  High quality US made fire extinguishers with plenty of capacity,
> including mounting them in the the trailer for at the track.  Some fires
> can be spread really quickly by hitting the with H20.  Generally speaking
> water will not put out burning oil fire.  However, it will spread the
> burning oil all over really quickly.
> 3.  Spark resistant blankets for use when we are welding in areas that
> things should be covered
> 4.  Making sure all flammables are stored safely and away from areas that
> could have sparks
> 5.  New and updated smoke detectors, heat sensors and Carbon Monoxide
> monitors where they can be used (not where we tune engines)
>
> Obviously common sense can prevent a lot of accidents.  Therefore, I
> though it would be interesting to see what the group has done in their work
> areas.
>
> Does anyone have anything else that keep around that they feel is helpful
> for shop area/garage safety?
>
> Paul Ricco
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<div dir=3D"auto">Paul,=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Beyond the &quot;minimum cod=
e requirement&quot; extinguisher&#39;s that get inspected and tagged annual=
ly, I also keep a 2.5 gallon pressurized AFFF extinguisher and a 2.5 gallon=
 water extinguisher charged and ready at my shop.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">The township fire inspector recommend the AFFF fo=
r fuel and oil type fires, and he also stated it can be used to pre-treat a=
 fuel spill while you clean it up to reduce the chances of a fire starting.=
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">He also recommend=
ed the water extinguisher near my welding area to knock down small flare up=
s.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I also make it a poin=
t to never leave until any welding or grinding work has cooled completely.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I also disconnect the ba=
ttery in vehicles during storage.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">When draining or filling a fuel tank,=
 I roll the vehicle outside if possible.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto">Thankfully, I&#39;ve never had a chance to test any of the=
se items!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Jason</div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Sat, Jan 16, 2021, 1:32 PM Paul Ricco via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@aut=
ox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">FOT,<br>
<br>
I have been lucky to work in some very well run industrial environments wit=
h world class safety equipment.=C2=A0 As we know, the stuff costs money and=
 a lot of people work without most of it in their own environments.<br>
<br>
We have been updating a lot of items in the areas that we work on car and c=
ar parts.=C2=A0 It is fun to spend money on tools and equipment.=C2=A0 Howe=
ver, safety equipment is not always as fun.=C2=A0 Near where we live, two p=
retty smart people have had fires damage their garages and parts of their h=
ouses before the fire department could arrive.=C2=A0 While I was running la=
rge car dealerships and body shops, I can tell you that fire extinguishers =
did need to be used from time to time.=C2=A0 Fortunately we had them and ne=
ver needed to make a call to the fire department, because the right things =
were in the right places.<br>
<br>
Therefore, we just upgraded all of our safety equipment.=C2=A0 Including:<b=
r>
<br>
1.=C2=A0 Splatter/spark screens for areas that we weld or grind<br>
2.=C2=A0 High quality US made fire extinguishers with plenty of capacity, i=
ncluding mounting them in the the trailer for at the track.=C2=A0 Some fire=
s can be spread really quickly by hitting the with H20.=C2=A0 Generally spe=
aking water will not put out burning oil fire.=C2=A0 However, it will sprea=
d the burning oil all over really quickly.<br>
3.=C2=A0 Spark resistant blankets for use when we are welding in areas that=
 things should be covered<br>
4.=C2=A0 Making sure all flammables are stored safely and away from areas t=
hat could have sparks<br>
5.=C2=A0 New and updated smoke detectors, heat sensors and Carbon Monoxide =
monitors where they can be used (not where we tune engines)<br>
<br>
Obviously common sense can prevent a lot of accidents.=C2=A0 Therefore, I t=
hough it would be interesting to see what the group has done in their work =
areas.<br>
<br>
Does anyone have anything else that keep around that they feel is helpful f=
or shop area/garage safety?<br>
<br>
Paul Ricco<br>
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