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Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2

To: "'Michael Deweerd'" <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>, <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2
From: Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 19:20:57 +0200
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Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the =
secret=E2=80=A6.225Nm.

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Von: tr4racing@gmail.com <tr4racing@gmail.com>=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18
An: 'Michael Deweerd' <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>; =
'tr4racing@googlemail.com' <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Cc: 'Kas Kastner' <kaskastner@gmail.com>; 'fot@autox. team. net' =
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Betreff: AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2

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Mike,

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my engine is really nothing special.

Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford =
Rods (I remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, =
48 Webers, that=E2=80=99s all.

My car is handling great. With good brake pads the standard brakes do =
very fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at front and rear.

There you have it. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4th =
because I accidently overtook under yellow)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4

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Cheers

Chris

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Von: Michael Deweerd <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com =
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2

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Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!!  175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve =
not had my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll =
have that number Of ponies.=20

We should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller =
B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D here in Canada that need squashing lol=20

Mike=20

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight =
corners.

But Triumphs do better from my experience.

My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster =
than a MG.

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Cheers

Chris

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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11
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Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2

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I see the same thing here with good Mg's quicker than the TR-4 cars.  =
EXCEPT we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared with the engine =
(bigger) and they are much better than the M.G.'s.  I also think  the =
MG's are  a lot lighter in weight for all seem very quick out of a =
corner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot better design to start =
with than thee TR-4 engine.  Way back in years I built MG engines and =
they were excellent in using high revs and very reliable.


Never be beaten by equipment.

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

Very well driven.

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Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that quick?

Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)

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What power do they make?

Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 =
Hp range.

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Cheers

Chris

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On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

Another Grattan video.  Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB=20

and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4.  13 minutes of full-on =
racing.



https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c



Cheers, Tony Drews



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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Forgot to =
mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the =
secret=E2=80=A6.225Nm.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> tr4racing@gmail.com &lt;tr4racing@gmail.com&gt; =
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18<br><b>An:</b> =
'Michael Deweerd' &lt;michaelndeweerd@gmail.com&gt;; =
'tr4racing@googlemail.com' =
&lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Kas Kastner' =
&lt;kaskastner@gmail.com&gt;; 'fot@autox. team. net' =
&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] Grattan race =
2<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE>Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>my engine is =
really nothing special.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Standard =
crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods (I =
remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 =
Webers, that=E2=80=99s all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>My car is =
handling great. With good brake pads the standard brakes do very fine. =
Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at front and =
rear.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>There you have it. From last to =
win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4<sup>th</sup> because I accidently =
overtook under yellow)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a =
href=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4";>https://www.youtub=
e.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span =
lang=3DDE> Michael Deweerd &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com";>michaelndeweerd@gmail.com</a>&g=
t; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54<br><b>An:</b> =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a><br>=
<b>Cc:</b> Kas Kastner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com";>kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt;; =
fot@autox. team. net &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Betre=
ff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!! =
&nbsp;175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not had my new engine on a dyno but I =
don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that number Of =
ponies.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>We =
should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D =
here in Canada that need squashing lol&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Mike&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Yep, MGs =
are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight =
corners.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>But =
Triumphs do better from my experience.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>My TR4 with =
88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster than a =
MG.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chris<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span =
lang=3DDE>Von:</span></b><span lang=3DDE> Kas Kastner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> =
Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I see the =
same thing here with&nbsp;good Mg's quicker than&nbsp;the TR-4 =
cars.&nbsp; EXCEPT&nbsp;we have a couple TR-4's that are better =
prepared&nbsp;with the engine&nbsp;(bigger) and they are much better =
than the M.G.'s.&nbsp; I also think &nbsp;the MG's are&nbsp; a lot =
lighter&nbsp;in weight&nbsp;for all seem very quick out of a corner. I =
also think that the MG engine is a lot better design to start with than =
thee TR-4 engine.&nbsp; Way back in years I built MG engines&nbsp;and =
they were excellent in using high revs and very reliable.<br =
clear=3Dall><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#000099'>Never be beaten =
by equipment.</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Thu, Aug =
20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Very well =
driven.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Wondering =
why these MGs and Porsches are that quick?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Normally =
Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What power =
do they make?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Here in =
Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp =
range.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chris<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Wed, Aug =
19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Another Grattan =
video.&nbsp; Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB <br><br>and =
Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4.&nbsp; 13 minutes of full-on =
racing.<br><br><br><br><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c"; =
target=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c</a><br><br><br><br>Cheers,=
 Tony =
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