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FOT does not have a mascot.
Maybe it could be:
Skunk
Alligator=20
Bat
???
Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell: 319.464.4711
> On Sep 27, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Mike Jackson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:
>=20
> Yea, not a dream. Back in the day when SVRA had a spring race down here i=
n South Florida and Charlie had a relative that lives near by to visit.
> Not only was he actually hanging upside down, in a FULL Batman costume but=
he had his little portable potty stationed back there with a rubber alligat=
or placed as if it were about to be flushed down AND a boom box playing "See=
You Later Alligator" by Bill Haley and the Comets
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCh1UQ47rWKU
>=20
> Oh yea, Charlie's business is as a caterer/chef so he had purchased some '=
gator chunks locally and fried them up to hand out to those passing by.
> That evening a friend found a certificate for labeling a bat roost which w=
e filled out and stuck to the side of his trailer.
>=20
> And then he retired from racing and wasnt heard from for several years unt=
il after his wife passed away. Out of the blue he calls me years later and s=
ays "Well, my wife is dead so I guess it's about time I get back to racing" =
He was interested in finding another TR4 and I located one in the Midwest t=
o send him to see. Irv Corey's car as I recall. Before he got there I mail=
ed Irv a bat-a-gator to put in the car. In the end he bought a different Br=
it car but at least we got him back! =20
>=20
> And, the bat-a-gators are another chapter that involved an argument about w=
hether his Bat or my Gator was male vs female. But seriously, think about i=
t, have you ever seen a gator that looked female? Me neither and I've seen a=
bundle of 'em down here. Including the one that used to live in my pond, w=
e named him Burt, after BS Levy.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: fubog1=20
> Sent: Sep 27, 2019 10:30 AM=20
> To: grandwazoo@earthlink.net=20
> Cc: fot@Autox.Team.Net=20
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR=20
>=20
> I remember a dream I had of him in a batman suit, hanging from the roof in=
side of his racecar trailer, down @ PBIR...
> Strange dream.
> Glen
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Jackson <grandwazoo@earthlink.net>
> To: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>
> Sent: Fri, Sep 27, 2019 10:25 am
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR
>=20
> I just love that picture!
>=20
> I'd have liked to tell either the Batman story from PBIR or the Bat-a-Gat=
or one from Rd Atl or the "Circle of Truth" from PBIR but they all take much=
too much explanation.
>=20
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: fubog1=20
> Sent: Sep 27, 2019 7:41 AM=20
> To: billdentin@aol.com, grandwazoo@earthlink.net, tr3a58dean@gmail.com, fo=
t@autox.team.net=20
> Cc: charlie106@att.net=20
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR=20
>=20
> I have one of Charlies (cardboard) bats right here in my office!
> And then there's this photo if it goes through the innernets...
> Glen
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: grandwazoo <grandwazoo@earthlink.net>; tr3a58dean <tr3a58dean@gmail.co=
m>; fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> Cc: charlie106 <charlie106@att.net>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2019 2:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4
>=20
> The infamous BAT vs GATOR race. =20
>=20
> I was there. I seen it. =20
>=20
> They waved, when they went by.
>=20
> Bill Dentinger.
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Jackson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> To: Dean <tr3a58dean@gmail.com>; fot@autox.team.net <fot@autox.team.net>
> Cc: charlie106 <charlie106@att.net>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2019 11:35 am
> Subject: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4
>=20
> Charlies old TR4 is now owned and extremely well driven by Mark Wheatley. =
It is a joy to see it every time its at the track with us.
>=20
> I dont want to bore everyone with a hundred stories of that '92 weekend. B=
ut, here's my favorite..
> Charlie and I remain great friends even tho he races some Jap thingy now. =
We had been running literally door handle to door handle all weekend long a=
nd having a great time at it. His wife Betty passed away some years ago but=
she and my wife Sandy were on the hillside at the keyhole for the "big" rac=
e that weekend. During the race as we continued to come thru the corner eit=
her nose to tail or side by side Betty says to Sandy "I sure am glad Charlie=
doesnt take this too seriously and only does it for fun". Sandy bit her li=
p and said nothing. After the race she got Charlie off to the side and told=
him that he would "owe her forever" for not explaining to Betty just how se=
riously we did, in fact, take it. =20
>=20
> Ok, one more... in the paddock he blipped the throttle and it ran up more l=
ike an F1 car of the era. "Charlie you POS, it's supposed to have a flywhee=
l on it!" His reply "It does".... "Well it's supposed to have a weight at l=
east in two digits"...."It does! Eight point five"
>=20
> Dear God, there are so many more Charlie Kates stories both that weekend a=
nd thru the years.
>=20
> Mike
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Dean via Fot=20
> Sent: Sep 26, 2019 12:11 PM=20
> To: "fot@autox.team.net"=20
> Subject: [Fot] 1992 Mid Ohio=20
>=20
> Don=E2=80=99t know if this will transfer, but this is from the race in 199=
2 carried in Vintage Motorsports Annual. I Photo
> Showing Mike Jackson and Charlie Kates.
> =20
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">FOT does not have a mascot.<div><br></div><=
div>Maybe it could be:</div><div><br></div><div>Skunk</div><div>Alligator&nb=
sp;</div><div>Bat</div><div><br></div><div>???</div><div><br><br><div id=3D"=
AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Joe Alexander<div>4505 Donald Dr</div><div>C=
edar Falls, IA 50613</div><div><a href=3D"http://The-vintage-racer.com";>The-=
vintage-racer.com</a></div><div><a href=3D"http://Gasketinnovations.com";>Gas=
ketinnovations.com</a></div><div>Cell: 319.464.4711</div><div><br></di=
v></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Sep 27, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Mike Jackson via =
Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wro=
te:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"fo=
nt-size: 16px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Yea, not a=
dream. Back in the day when SVRA had a spring race down here in South=
Florida and Charlie had a relative that lives near by to visit.<div style=3D=
"font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Not onl=
y was he actually hanging upside down, in a FULL Batman costume but he had h=
is little portable potty stationed back there with a rubber alligator placed=
as if it were about to be flushed down AND a boom box playing "See You Late=
r Alligator" by Bill Haley and the Comets</div><div style=3D"font-family: Ge=
neva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><a href=3D"https://www.=
youtube.com/watch?v=3DCh1UQ47rWKU" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 255);">https://=
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DCh1UQ47rWKU</a></div><div style=3D"font-family: Ge=
neva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><br></div><div style=3D=
"font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Oh yea,=
Charlie's business is as a caterer/chef so he had purchased some 'gator chu=
nks locally and fried them up to hand out to those passing by.</div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">Th=
at evening a friend found a certificate for labeling a bat roost which we fi=
lled out and stuck to the side of his trailer.</div><div style=3D"font-famil=
y: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;"><br></div><div sty=
le=3D"font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 9pt;">An=
d then he retired from racing and wasnt heard from for several years until a=
fter his wife passed away. Out of the blue he calls me years later and=
says "Well, my wife is dead so I guess it's about time I get back to racing=
" He was interested in finding another TR4 and I located one in t=
he Midwest to send him to see. Irv Corey's car as I recall. Befo=
re he got there I mailed Irv a bat-a-gator to put in the car. In the e=
nd he bought a different Brit car but at least we got him back! <=
/div><div style=3D"font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 9pt;"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family: Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sa=
ns-serif; font-size: 9pt;">And, the bat-a-gators are another chapter that in=
volved an argument about whether his Bat or my Gator was male vs female.&nbs=
p; But seriously, think about it, have you ever seen a gator that looked fem=
ale? Me neither and I've seen a bundle of 'em down here. Includi=
ng the one that used to live in my pond, we named him Burt, after BS Levy.</=
div><br><blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-lef=
t: #0000ff 2px solid; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decorati=
on: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif; color: black;">---=
--Original Message-----
<br>From: fubog1 <fubog1@aol.com>
<br>Sent: Sep 27, 2019 10:30 AM
<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:grandwazoo@earthlink.net";>grandwazoo@earthlink.net=
</a>
<br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:fot@Autox.Team.Net";>fot@Autox.Team.Net</a>
<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR
<br><br>
<div style=3D"color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"2">I remember a dream I had of him in a batman suit, han=
ging from the roof inside of his racecar trailer, down @ PBIR...</font></div=
>
<div><font size=3D"2">Strange dream.</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Glen</font><br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----O=
riginal Message-----<br>
From: Mike Jackson <<a href=3D"mailto:grandwazoo@earthlink.net";>grandwazo=
o@earthlink.net</a>><br>
To: fubog1 <<a href=3D"mailto:fubog1@aol.com";>fubog1@aol.com</a>><br>
Sent: Fri, Sep 27, 2019 10:25 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GATOR<br>
<br>
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f;">
<div>I just love that picture!</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
I'd have liked to tell either the Batman story from PBIR or the Bat-a-=
Gator one from Rd Atl or the "Circle of Truth" from PBIR but they all take m=
uch too much explanation.
<div><br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv9529432044yqt1273654792" id=3D"yiv9529432044yqt79961"><bloc=
kquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px sol=
id;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;=
font-family:arial, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----
<br clear=3D"none">From: fubog1=20
<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Sep 27, 2019 7:41 AM
<br clear=3D"none">To: <a href=3D"mailto:billdentin@aol.com";>billdentin@aol.=
com</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:grandwazoo@earthlink.net";>grandwazoo@earthlink.ne=
t</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:tr3a58dean@gmail.com";>tr3a58dean@gmail.com</a>, <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>
<br clear=3D"none">Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:charlie106@att.net";>charlie106@att.=
net</a>
<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4 BAT vs GAT=
OR
<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"2">I have one of Charlies (cardboard) bats right here in=
my office!</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">And then there's this photo if it goes through the inn=
ernets...</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2">Glen</font><br clear=3D"none">
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div>
<div>
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mg class=3D"yiv9529432044AOLInlineImage" id=3D"yiv9529432044TIE.4441890" sty=
le=3D"margin:5px;vertical-align:middle;" alt=3D"Kates & gator & TR.j=
pg" title=3D"Kates & gator & TR.jpg" src=3D"cid:" width=3D"275"></di=
v>
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-Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@a=
utox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
To: grandwazoo <<a href=3D"mailto:grandwazoo@earthlink.net";>grandwazoo@ea=
rthlink.net</a>>; tr3a58dean <<a href=3D"mailto:tr3a58dean@gmail.com";>=
tr3a58dean@gmail.com</a>>; fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>=
fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
Cc: charlie106 <<a href=3D"mailto:charlie106@att.net";>charlie106@att.net<=
/a>><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2019 2:45 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>The infamous BAT vs GATOR race. </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>I was there. I seen it. </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>They waved, when they went by.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Bill Dentinger.</div>
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-Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Mike Jackson via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@aut=
ox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none">
To: Dean <<a href=3D"mailto:tr3a58dean@gmail.com";>tr3a58dean@gmail.com</a=
>>; <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a> <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"non=
e">
Cc: charlie106 <<a href=3D"mailto:charlie106@att.net";>charlie106@att.net<=
/a>><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2019 11:35 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: [Fot] Charlie Kates and his TR4<br clear=3D"none">
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f;">
<div>Charlies old TR4 is now owned and extremely well driven by Mark Wheatle=
y. It is a joy to see it every time its at the track with us.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
I dont want to bore everyone with a hundred stories of that '92 weekend.&nbs=
p; But, here's my favorite..
<div>Charlie and I remain great friends even tho he races some Jap thingy no=
w. We had been running literally door handle to door handle all weeken=
d long and having a great time at it. His wife Betty passed away some y=
ears ago but she and my wife Sandy were on the hillside at the keyhole for t=
he "big" race that weekend. During the race as we continued to come th=
ru the corner either nose to tail or side by side Betty says to Sandy "I sur=
e am glad Charlie doesnt take this too seriously and only does it for fun".&=
nbsp; Sandy bit her lip and said nothing. After the race she got Charl=
ie off to the side and told him that he would "owe her forever" for not expl=
aining to Betty just how seriously we did, in fact, take it. </di=
v>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Ok, one more... in the paddock he blipped the throttle and it ran up mo=
re like an F1 car of the era. "Charlie you POS, it's supposed to have a=
flywheel on it!" His reply "It does".... "Well it's supposed to have a=
weight at least in two digits"...."It does! Eight point five"</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Dear God, there are so many more Charlie Kates stories both that weeken=
d and thru the years.</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Mike</div>
<div><blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000=
ff 2px solid;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-=
size:10pt;font-family:arial, sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-=
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From: Dean via Fot=20
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Sent: Sep 26, 2019 12:11 PM
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To: "<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>"=20
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Subject: [Fot] 1992 Mid Ohio
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<div class=3D"yiv9529432044MsoNormal">Don=E2=80=99t know if this will transf=
er, but this is from the race in 1992 carried in Vintage Motorsports Annual.=
I Photo</div>
<div class=3D"yiv9529432044MsoNormal">Showing Mike Jackson and Charlie Kates=
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