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To: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Broken Diffs
From: Keith Files via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 07:03:32 +0000
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I have the dyno sheets for both cars, you can believe me or not =F0=9F=98=80=
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This thread was about helping out a fellow TR owner with diff problems =
not about me and my cars.

> On 22 Nov 2018, at 00:27, John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Any of you blokes that claim HP numbers need to attach the dyno sheet.=20=

>=20
>=20
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:11 PM Keith Files via Fot =
> Hi Bob,
>=20
> i am pretty sure that Tran X is the same as a Salisbury LSD and is =
still available through TR Enterprises here in the UK.
>=20
> I do not know what car you are using (TR4 i think) so a new Tran X is =
probably ok. I have 2 Salisbury LSD units in 2 axles for my TR4.
>=20
> However, if you are running a TR6 then I would recommend a Gripper LSD =
as they can handle the extra power and need a lot less maintenance than =
the Salisbury (I swapped out and sold both my Salisbury LSDs for 2 new =
Grippers for my TR6).
>=20
> www.gripperlsd.com <http://www.gripperlsd.com/>
>=20
> Of interest my TR4 produces 194 bhp at the flywheel and my TR6 =
produces 252 bhp at the flywheel.
>=20
> Hope that helps,
>=20
> Keith
>=20
> =20
>=20
>> On 21 Nov 2018, at 14:40, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
>>=20
>> Should be a lot of used carriers around?
>>=20
>> On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 11:34:42 PM EST, Robert Lang via Fot =
>>=20
>>=20
>> Hi,
>>=20
>> I broke a diff at Thompson back in October and I finally did a =
post-mortem. Looks like a couple of bolts backed out and when the shit =
hit the fan, the 4 or 5 that were still holding on sheared off. In any =
case, lots of metal bits in there. Some of the big pieces bounced around =
in the diff and there's some gouges in the Tran-X center section. The =
question to the group is - assuming that I find no cracks in the center =
section, it it accepted practice to clean off the dings to prevent =
stress risers and re-use it or is this a "tosser".
>>=20
>> Speaking of Tran-X, does anyone sell those now or are we limited to =
Quaife and GKN? I see that Rimmer lists both of those units. To be =
honest, I'm not a fan of Quaife because I have to run the rear a lot =
softer to prevent wheel spin in the tight stuff - that kills my times at =
places like Thompson and Palmer (like 1.5 to 2 seconds a lap.) Speaking =
of GKN, I know nothing about them other than "clutch type differential". =
Feel free to chime in if you have experience with those units.
>>=20
>> Also, I am nearly 100% certain that I was using new lock washers and =
Red Loctite high strength thread compound, so the bolts backing out was =
a total surprise when I cracked the case open. I was assuming that the =
pinion head had sheared off based on how the car felt when the diff =
broke. It was BANG and done - box full of neutrals.
>>=20
>> Off topic - looks like I'm not driving at ButtonWillow, I got a reply =
from Joe Siam that he has nothing available for that date. Oh well. Look =
like my budget is going to gears and stuff anyway... ;-)
>>=20
>> c ya,
>> Bob Lang
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
have the dyno sheets for both cars, you can believe me or not =
=F0=9F=98=80=F0=9F=91=8D<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">This thread was about helping out a fellow TR owner with diff =
problems not about me and my cars.<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 22 =
Nov 2018, at 00:27, John Styduhar &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com"; class=3D"">johnstydo@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small">Any of you blokes that claim HP numbers need =
to attach the dyno sheet.&nbsp; </div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br class=3D""></div></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 =
at 12:11 PM Keith Files via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=3D"">Hi =
Bob,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">i am pretty =
sure that Tran X is the same as a Salisbury LSD and is still available =
through TR Enterprises here in the UK.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I do not know what car you are using =
(TR4 i think) so a new Tran X is probably ok. I have 2 Salisbury LSD =
units in 2 axles for my TR4.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">However, if you are running a TR6 then =
I would recommend a Gripper LSD as they can handle the extra power and =
need a lot less maintenance than the Salisbury (I swapped out and sold =
both my Salisbury LSDs for 2 new Grippers for my TR6).</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://www.gripperlsd.com/"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">www.gripperlsd.com</a></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Of interest my TR4 produces 194 bhp at =
the flywheel and my TR6 produces 252 bhp at the flywheel.</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Hope that =
helps,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Keith</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On 21 Nov 2018, at 14:40, Jack =
Wheeler via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671Apple-interchange-newline"><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpc7dbbde5yahoo-style-wrap" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div class=3D""></div>
        <div class=3D"">Should be a lot of used carriers around?<br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
       =20
        </div><div =
id=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyahoo_quoted_3319891977" =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica =
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a" class=3D"">=

               =20
                <div class=3D"">
                    On Tuesday, November 20, 2018, 11:34:42 PM EST, =
Robert Lang via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div>
                <div class=3D""><div =
id=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Hi,</div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I broke a diff at =
Thompson back in October and I finally did a post-mortem. Looks like a =
couple of bolts backed out and when the shit hit the fan, the 4 or 5 =
that were still holding on sheared off. In any case, lots of metal bits =
in there. Some of the big pieces bounced around in the diff and there's =
some gouges in the Tran-X center section. The question to the group is - =
assuming that I find no cracks in the center section, it it accepted =
practice to clean off the dings to prevent stress risers and re-use it =
or is this a "tosser".</div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Speaking of Tran-X, does =
anyone sell those now or are we limited to Quaife and GKN? I see that =
Rimmer lists both of those units. To be honest, I'm not a fan of Quaife =
because I have to run the rear a lot softer to prevent wheel spin in the =
tight stuff - that kills my times at places like Thompson and Palmer =
(like 1.5 to 2 seconds a lap.) Speaking of GKN, I know nothing about =
them other than "clutch type differential". Feel free to chime in if you =
have experience with those units.<br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Also, I am nearly 100% =
certain that I was using new lock washers and Red Loctite high strength =
thread compound, so the bolts backing out was a total surprise when I =
cracked the case open. I was assuming that the pinion head had sheared =
off based on how the car felt when the diff broke. It was BANG and done =
- box full of neutrals.</div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Off topic - looks like =
I'm not driving at ButtonWillow, I got a reply from Joe Siam that he has =
nothing available for that date. Oh well. Look like my budget is going =
to gears and stuff anyway... ;-)</div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"m_-2675567912368232671ydpb94af08dyiv8313936560ydp243c3563yahoo-st=
yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
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yle-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
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