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Re: [Fot] variation in Timken carrier bearing width?

To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] variation in Timken carrier bearing width?
From: Aaron Johnson <hpspitfire@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 07:51:36 +0530
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How did you order the bearings?    There is a huge counterfit bearing manufa=
cturing market.   I have lost count how many times over the last 6 years I'v=
e had to investigate them.  The last set of ball bearings I bought were skf b=
ut we're obviously not legitimate.  I took it with me to skf on a visit and c=
onfirmed it was not made in any of their factories. =20

If you've got concerns of counterfit bearings send me some pictures and I ca=
n help.=20

Aaron

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29-Sep-2016, at 10:29 PM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:
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> John,
>         Replacing the old bearings because they were worn out.  New Timken=
s seem to be the best available option.
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> Jason
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>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM, John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com> wro=
te:
>> Some of the USA-stamped Timkens even look cheap when you compare them to t=
he England-made.  I wouldn't be surprised if they were made overseas. If the=
re is nothing wrong with your old bearings, why replace them?
>>=20
>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:59 AM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Has anyone else noticed rather large variation in carrier bearing width'=
s when rebuilding a spitfire differential?  The one I'm building right now, I=
've replaced what I suspect are the original bearings (Timken England) with b=
rand new Timken USA bearings.  In order to reach the required .004" preload,=
 it will require .012" LESS total shim than what was in there originally.  T=
hat seems like a big difference with the only variable being new bearings.  I=
'm using the same housing, same carrier, the bearings visually look to be fu=
lly pressed home.  Anyone else experience this?
>>>=20
>>> Thanks,
>>>=20
>>> Jason Sukey
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>How did you order the bearings? &nbsp;=
 &nbsp;There is a huge counterfit bearing manufacturing market. &nbsp; I hav=
e lost count how many times over the last 6 years I've had to investigate th=
em. &nbsp;The last set of ball bearings I bought were skf but we're obviousl=
y not legitimate. &nbsp;I took it with me to skf on a visit and confirmed it=
 was not made in any of their factories. &nbsp;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSig=
nature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">If you've got concerns of c=
ounterfit bearings send me some pictures and I can help.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Aaron<br><br>S=
ent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 29-Sep-2016, at 10:29 PM, Jason Sukey &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:jsukey@gmail.com";>jsukey@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">John,<div>&nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; Replacing the old bearings because they were worn out.&nbsp=
; New Timkens seem to be the best available option.</div><div><br></div><div=
>Jason</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:52 PM, John Styduhar <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">johnstydo@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Some of the USA-stamped Timkens=
 even look cheap when you compare them to the England-made.&nbsp; I wouldn't=
 be surprised if they were made overseas. If there is nothing wrong with you=
r old bearings, why replace them?</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div class=3D"h5">On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:=
59 AM, Jason Sukey <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jsukey@gmail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">jsukey@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class=3D"h5"><div dir=3D"ltr">Has anyon=
e else noticed rather large variation in carrier bearing width's when rebuil=
ding a spitfire differential?&nbsp; The one I'm building right now, I've rep=
laced what I suspect are the original bearings (Timken England) with brand n=
ew Timken USA bearings.&nbsp; In order to reach the required .004" preload, i=
t will require .012" LESS total shim than what was in there originally.&nbsp=
; That seems like a big difference with the only variable being new bearings=
.&nbsp; I'm using the same housing, same carrier, the bearings visually look=
 to be fully pressed home.&nbsp; Anyone else experience this?<div><br></div>=
<div>Thanks,<br><div><br></div><div>Jason Sukey</div></div></div>
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