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Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube

To: "Charly Mitchel" <charly@mitchelplumbing.com>, "Steven Belfer" <steve@artwithcars.com>, <rjl@gt-classics.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube
From: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@spitfire4.com>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 17:17:13 -0500
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Yeah, mine=92s a Spitfire. Dipstick under the headers (right side).=20

if ya got a 6 with an easily accessible hole on the left side, then a =
plug that only needs a hex wrench to loosen works fine. I try not to use =
Allen wrenches if something else works.

One other thing in the race vs. street comparison is oil pressure is =
often higher in the race car. I run about 80 pounds in the racer (I=92ve =
also got an adjustable oil pressure valve) vs. 35-40 in the street car, =
so if it isn=92t plugged it blows oil out the dipstick  hole whether the =
dipstick is in or not.

--Rocky

From: Charly Mitchel=20
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 4:31 PM
To: Rocky Entriken ; Steven Belfer ; rjl@gt-classics.com=20
Cc: FOT List=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube

.=20
Maybe I haven't checked my oil lately, but I seem to remember it's on =
the distributor side of the motor?  No header on that side.  I agree =
that I check my oil after or before every session and would not want to =
reach down next to a hot motor with an allen wrench to loosen a screw to =
then stick in a dipstick and then tighten it, one more place for a leak. =
 If you had a Spit, might be easier.

Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Rocky Entriken=20
  To: Steven Belfer ; rjl@gt-classics.com=20
  Cc: FOT List=20
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 1:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube

  Is it a race car? Of course it requires tools. there=92s all kinds of =
things you simply never bother with on a street car (or leave to the =
mechanic) for which you need/want tools on a race car.

  That dipstick tube is a street car item (and the stock exhaust =
manifold is not in the way). My race car has headers (which are in the =
way), an oil cooler, Accusump, remote oil filter, baffled pan, an oil =
pump with a filter screen, exterior (steel-braided) plumbing a street =
car does not have (and which has its own special wrenches), and 7.5 =
quarts of not-street-legal synthetic oil. Not gonna get married to a =
street-car item like a frickin=92  tin tube sticking out of the engine =
block.

  --Rocky

  From: Steven Belfer=20
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM
  To: rjl@gt-classics.com=20
  Cc: Robert Lang ; FOT List ; Rocky Entriken=20
  Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube

  Really? It seems to be a pretty good invention in its designated =
place. Checking the oil level shouldn't require tools.=20

  ~Steve=20


  On May 12, 2016, at 5:24 AM, R. John Lye <rjl@gt-classics.com> wrote:


    I second that suggestion.  That's what I did as well.



    John

    On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken =
<rocky@spitfire4.com> wrote:

      Option 2.

      All you need is a plug. Best kind is one where the hex head is =
actually smaller than the plug, so you can reach it with a socket =
extension and remove it easily when the headers are still hot.

      My dipstick is a toolbox item. My two race engines have the =
dipstick tubes removed ... on purpose.

      --Rocky Entriken


      From: Robert Lang=20
      Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:21 PM
      To: FOT List=20
      Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube

      Hi,

      I somehow managed to lose the dip stick tube for my latest engine. =
So, what's the consensus:

      1. fabricate a tube from some aluminum
      2. drill / tap the block for an AN fitting and fab up a dip stick =
of the proper length

      ???

      In other words, I'm looking for suggestions.

      Oddly, three engine block cores and no dip stick tubes. What's up =
with that?

      Regards,
      Bob Lang
      339-927-449



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<DIV>Yeah, mine=92s a Spitfire. Dipstick under the headers (right side). =
</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>if ya got a 6 with an easily accessible hole on the left side, then =
a plug=20
that only needs a hex wrench to loosen works fine. I try not to use =
Allen=20
wrenches if something else works.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>One other thing in the race vs. street comparison is oil pressure =
is often=20
higher in the race car. I run about 80 pounds in the racer (I=92ve also =
got an=20
adjustable oil pressure valve) vs. 35-40 in the street car, so if it =
isn=92t=20
plugged it blows oil out the dipstick&nbsp; hole whether the dipstick is =
in or=20
not.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>--Rocky</DIV>
<DIV=20
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<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dcharly@mitchelplumbing.com=20
href=3D"mailto:charly@mitchelplumbing.com";>Charly Mitchel</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 12, 2016 4:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drocky@spitfire4.com=20
href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com";>Rocky Entriken</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dsteve@artwithcars.com =
href=3D"mailto:steve@artwithcars.com";>Steven=20
Belfer</A> ; <A title=3Drjl@gt-classics.com=20
href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com";>rjl@gt-classics.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dfot@autox.team.net =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT=20
List</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>.=20

<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Maybe I haven't checked my oil lately, =
but I seem=20
to remember it's on the distributor side of the motor?&nbsp; No header =
on that=20
side.&nbsp; I agree that I check my oil after or before every session =
and would=20
not want to reach down next to a hot motor with an allen wrench to =
loosen a=20
screw to then stick in a dipstick and then tighten it, one more place =
for a=20
leak.&nbsp; If you had a Spit, might be easier.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Charly Mitchel</DIV>
<DIV>TR6 #44<BR>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px =
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  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Drocky@spitfire4.com =
href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com";>Rocky=20
  Entriken</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dsteve@artwithcars.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:steve@artwithcars.com";>Steven Belfer</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Drjl@gt-classics.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com";>rjl@gt-classics.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT List</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 12, 2016 =
1:39=20
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip =
Stick=20
  Tube</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV dir=3Dltr>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: =
#000000">
  <DIV>Is it a race car? Of course it requires tools. there=92s all =
kinds of=20
  things you simply never bother with on a street car (or leave to the =
mechanic)=20
  for which you need/want tools on a race car.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>That dipstick tube is a street car item (and the stock exhaust =
manifold=20
  is not in the way). My race car has headers (which <U>are</U> in the =
way), an=20
  oil cooler, Accusump, remote oil filter, baffled pan, an oil pump with =
a=20
  filter screen, exterior (steel-braided) plumbing a street car does not =
have=20
  (and which has its own special wrenches), and 7.5 quarts of =
not-street-legal=20
  synthetic oil. Not gonna get married to a street-car item like a=20
  frickin=92&nbsp; tin tube sticking out of the engine block.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>--Rocky</DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5; FONT: 10pt tahoma">
  <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=3Dsteve@artwithcars.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:steve@artwithcars.com";>Steven Belfer</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 12, 2016 10:27 AM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Drjl@gt-classics.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com";>rjl@gt-classics.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Drobertlangtr6@yahoo.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com";>Robert Lang</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dfot@autox.team.net href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>FOT =
List</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Drocky@spitfire4.com href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com";>Rocky =
Entriken</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick Tube</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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  <DIV>Really? It seems to be a pretty good invention in its designated =
place.=20
  Checking the oil level shouldn't require tools. <BR><BR>~Steve=20
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR>On May 12, 2016, at 5:24 AM, R. John Lye &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:rjl@gt-classics.com";>rjl@gt-classics.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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    <P>I second that suggestion.&nbsp; That's what I did as well.</P>
    <P>&nbsp;</P>
    <P>John<BR><BR>On Wed, 11 May 2016 21:44:49 -0500, Rocky Entriken =
&lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:rocky@spitfire4.com";>rocky@spitfire4.com</A>&gt; =
wrote:</P>
    <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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      <DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri'; COLOR: =
#000000">
      <DIV>Option 2.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>All you need is a plug. Best kind is one where the hex head =
is=20
      actually smaller than the plug, so you can reach it with a socket=20
      extension and remove it easily when the headers are still =
hot.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>My dipstick is a toolbox item. My two race engines have the =
dipstick=20
      tubes removed ... on purpose.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>--Rocky Entriken</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Calibri'; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
      <DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><STRONG>From:</STRONG> <A=20
      title=3Drobertlangtr6@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com"=20
      target=3D"">Robert Lang</A> </DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG>Sent:</STRONG> Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:21 PM</DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG>To:</STRONG> <A title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"">FOT List</A> </DIV>
      <DIV><STRONG>Subject:</STRONG> Re: [Fot] TR6 Dip Stick=20
      Tube</DIV></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
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      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5279>Hi,</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5305>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5306>I somehow managed =
to lose the=20
      dip stick tube for my latest engine. So, what's the =
consensus:</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5399>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>1. fabricate a tube from some aluminum</DIV>
      <DIV>2. drill / tap the block for an AN fitting and fab up a dip =
stick of=20
      the proper length</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5401>???</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5403>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>In other words, I'm looking for suggestions.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5405>Oddly, three engine =
block=20
      cores and no dip stick tubes. What's up with that?</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5407>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5409>Regards,</DIV>
      <DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1463004624993_5410>Bob Lang</DIV>
      <DIV>339-927-449</DIV></DIV>
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