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I've had a set of Venolia Pistons in my race GT6 for probably eight years. J=
ust measured the skirt dimension against an unused spare- 0.6/1,000 of wea=
r, max. They'll be going back in the engine again with new rings. My recoll=
ection is they are about $75 each.
My routine redline is 7,000 rpm.
Sent from my mobile device=20
On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:07 AM, Spitfire Racing <spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com> w=
rote:
I did an engine rebuild for a GT-6 owner on his occasional track car and aga=
inst my recommendation he wanted the cheaper option of County pistons. I had=
suggested using either J&E; Aries or Venolia forged pistons but he didn=E2=80=
=99t want to =E2=80=9Cspend that much=E2=80=9D. I found their weights to be l=
ess uniform but in all honesty to the best of my awareness the engine is sti=
ll running. These are made in China and given how nervous they made me, I do=
n=E2=80=99t think I would do another build using them. The builder is always=
held responsible for any failure regardless of cause. When I build a Spitfi=
re engine using proper forged pistons we dyno test at 7800. I would be nervo=
us doing that with County pistons.
=20
I will say I admit to having general misgivings about anything made in China=
but that=E2=80=99s based on experience. Why risk your reputation and the ex=
pense of a total build by using cheap pistons. It=E2=80=99s a false economy.=
I dreaded every time the phone rang for a month after delivering the car, b=
ut in this instance they seemingly met the requirement. It takes years to bu=
ild a reputation but it can be lost in mere minutes.
=20
County pistons may work for street car applications but are a risky choice f=
or the rigors of racing. Spinning a bearing indicates either poor clearances=
or an oiling deficiency. A proper rebuild should check and correct only eve=
rything! Don=E2=80=99t assume the one problem you find is the only problem. S=
hortcuts predictably end up in expensive disaster.
I=E2=80=99ll step off the soap box now!
Choose wisely!
=20
Russ Moore
Spitfire #49
=20
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Gray
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2016 9:58 PM
To: 'FOT list'
Subject: [Fot] Opinion needed on GT6 pistons
=20
I=E2=80=99m rebuilding and engine for a fellow club member and need to get a=
n opinion on County pistons.
The last =E2=80=9C rebuild=E2=80=9D only lasted minutes on track until it sp=
un a bearing. The pistons were new
for the last build. Since I have no experience with the County brand I=E2=80=
=99d like to know from the collective
if they are descent racing pistons.
Thanks as always,
Jim g
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I've had a set of Venolia Pistons in m=
y race GT6 for probably eight years. Just measured the skirt dimension again=
st an unused spare- 0.6/1,000 of wear, max. They'll be going ba=
ck in the engine again with new rings. My recollection is they are about $75=
each.<br>My routine redline is 7,000 rpm.</div><div><br>Sent from my mobile=
device </div><div><br>On Jan 4, 2016, at 5:07 AM, Spitfire Racing <=
<a href=3D"mailto:spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com";>spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I did an engine rebuild for a GT-6 ow=
ner on his occasional track car and against my recommendation he wanted the c=
heaper option of County pistons. I had suggested using either J&E; Aries=
or Venolia forged pistons but he didn=E2=80=99t want to =E2=80=9Cspend that=
much=E2=80=9D. I found their weights to be less uniform but in all honesty t=
o the best of my awareness the engine is still running. These are made in Ch=
ina and given how nervous they made me, I don=E2=80=99t think I would do ano=
ther build using them. The builder is always held responsible for any failur=
e regardless of cause. When I build a Spitfire engine using proper forged pi=
stons we dyno test at 7800. I would be nervous doing that with County piston=
s.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F4=
97D">I will say I admit to having general misgivings about anything made in C=
hina but that=E2=80=99s based on experience. Why risk your reputation and th=
e expense of a total build by using cheap pistons. It=E2=80=99s a false econ=
omy. I dreaded every time the phone rang for a month after delivering the ca=
r, but in this instance they seemingly met the requirement. It takes years t=
o build a reputation but it can be lost in mere minutes.<o:p></o:p></span></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">County pistons m=
ay work for street car applications but are a risky choice for the rigors of=
racing. Spinning a bearing indicates either poor clearances or an oiling de=
ficiency. A proper rebuild should check and correct only everything! Don=E2=80=
=99t assume the one problem you find is the only problem. Shortcuts predicta=
bly end up in expensive disaster.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I=E2=80=99ll step off the soap box now!<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Choose=
wisely!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1=
F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"col=
or:#1F497D">Russ Moore<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"color:#1F497D">Spitfire #49<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D=
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ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahom=
a","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Fot [<a href=3D"=
mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b=
>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Gray<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 03, 2016 9:58 PM<=
br><b>To:</b> 'FOT list'<br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Opinion needed on GT6 pist=
ons<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m rebuilding and engine for a fellow c=
lub member and need to get an opinion on County pistons.<o:p></o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">The last =E2=80=9C rebuild=E2=80=9D only lasted minutes on=
track until it spun a bearing. The pistons were new<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">for the last build. Since I have no experience with the County b=
rand I=E2=80=99d like to know from the collective <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal">if they are descent racing pistons.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Thanks as always,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim g<o:p></=
o:p></p></div></div><div><span>_____________________________________________=
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