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Hi Peter,
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sure this tool is a marketing toy and shows what Lucas likes to =
demonstrate.
I agree that an engine is not a gearbox but in an engine the oil gets =
thrown around, stirred up in rotating machinery.
Not as bad as in a gearbox though.
=20
Chris
=20
Von: Peter Vucinic [mailto:pvucinic@netspace.net.au]=20
Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. September 2015 09:24
An: 'MadMarx'; fot@autox.team.net
Betreff: RE: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
=20
Chris,
Firstly. From an engineering and accuracy stand point. That=E2=80=99s is =
the dumbest demonstration I have seen!=20
I know this LUCAS selling aid/demonstration machine.=20
=20
1. It was only meant to show the ability of the LUCAS additive to =
ADHERE to, and travel up the gear train, better than without the =
additive. I mean, that=E2=80=99s a given considering the additive is =
making the viscosity of the oil increase by =E2=80=98topping up=E2=80=99 =
the base oil! No brainer. But to the general public, this looks like =
it=E2=80=99s working and doing a better job of lubricating.
2. Why on earth would you use ENGINE OIL, in a GEAR TRAIN to =
demonstrate foaming? That makes no sense to me. It has absolutely no =
correlation to your engine! Gear oils contain far greater amounts/styles =
of anti-foaming agents to exactly reduce the problem that is shown. =
Secondly, increasing the viscosity of the oil through and additive will =
only increase the likelihood of foaming.
=20
If you are running a DRY SUMP system where your oil is passing through =
one or more stages through a hydraulic pump etc. Foaming will become a =
greater problem for the system should the oil formula be compromised in =
anyway.
=20
Good marketing toy by LUCAS. That=E2=80=99s all it is.
=20
=20
=20
=20
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Sunday, 13 September 2015 8:38 AM
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
=20
I found video of the issue:
=20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5_rr-2PeFWQ
=20
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hi Peter,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>sure this tool is a marketing toy and shows what Lucas likes to =
demonstrate.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I agree that an engine is not a gearbox but in an engine the oil gets =
thrown around, stirred up in rotating machinery.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Not as bad as in a gearbox though.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Peter Vucinic [mailto:pvucinic@netspace.net.au] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> =
Sonntag, 13. September 2015 09:24<br><b>An:</b> 'MadMarx'; =
fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Betreff:</b> RE: [Fot] Lucas Oil =
Stabilisator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Firstly. From an engineering and accuracy stand point. That=E2=80=99s =
is the dumbest demonstration I have seen! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>I know this LUCAS selling aid/demonstration machine. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
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6'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times =
New Roman"'> =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>It was only meant to show the ability of the LUCAS additive to ADHERE =
to, and travel up the gear train, better than without the additive. I =
mean, that=E2=80=99s a given considering the additive is making the =
viscosity of the oil increase by =E2=80=98topping up=E2=80=99 the base =
oil! No brainer. But to the general public, this looks like it=E2=80=99s =
working and doing a better job of lubricating.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'><span style=3D'mso-list:Ignore'>2.<span style=3D'font:7.0pt "Times =
New Roman"'> =
</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Why on earth would you use ENGINE OIL, in a GEAR TRAIN to demonstrate =
foaming? That makes no sense to me. It has absolutely no correlation to =
your engine! Gear oils contain far greater amounts/styles of =
anti-foaming agents to exactly reduce the problem that is shown. =
Secondly, increasing the viscosity of the oil through and additive will =
only increase the likelihood of foaming.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>If you are running a DRY SUMP system where your oil is passing =
through one or more stages through a hydraulic pump etc. Foaming will =
become a greater problem for the system should the oil formula be =
compromised in anyway.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Good marketing toy by LUCAS. That=E2=80=99s all it =
is.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
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6'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
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lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>MadMarx<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 13 =
September 2015 8:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
id=3D"AOLMsgPart_1.2_3361a46c-e14a-443d-8cc8-f64201e92e36"><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
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gin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I found video of the issue:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mar=
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