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Re: [Fot] TR-4 / TR-6 tranny layshaft bearing mod?

To: "'Stutzmans'" <stutzmans@comcast.net>, "'Jerry Van Vlack'" <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>, "'Joe Alexander'" <n197tr4@cs.com>, "'Tony Drews'" <tony@tonydrews.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 / TR-6 tranny layshaft bearing mod?
From: "Steve Yott" <tr4@wi.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 22:04:29 -0600
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
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I have excellent results machining the laygears using a diamond bit at high
speeds on the lathe.  I can also bore out destroyed laygears and press in a
sleeve which I then machine to accept a pair of the caged roller bearings
B-1314.  I have many of these modified laygears running for a number of
years.

Machinists a like doctors... there are always many opinions.

Steve Yott

-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Stutzmans
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:16 PM
To: Jerry Van Vlack; Joe Alexander; Tony Drews
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 / TR-6 tranny layshaft bearing mod?

It was too hard to grind!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Van Vlack" <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>
To: "Stutzmans" <stutzmans@comcast.net>; "Joe Alexander" <n197tr4@cs.com>;
"Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com>
Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 / TR-6 tranny layshaft bearing mod?


>I think Bruce meant the hardness of the material was too hard to 
>machine, a good grinding house could manage it. Or someone with the proper
tooling.
> JVV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stutzmans
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:39 PM
> To: Joe Alexander ; Tony Drews
> Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 / TR-6 tranny layshaft bearing mod?
>
> At my request, my machine shop guy tried to find somebody who could 
> modify it to take extra bearings.  Everybody said it was too hard.
> Bruce
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Alexander" <n197tr4@cs.com>
> To: "Tony Drews" <tony@tonydrews.com>
> Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR-4 / TR-6 tranny layshaft bearing mod?
>
>
>> Ed W.  (FOG1) can be very helpful.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Nov 16, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone modified the TR-4 / TR-6 tranny layshaft assembly to 
>>> accept
>> larger, higher capacity bearings?  Turns out the root cause of my 
>> transmission failure was the failure of the front needle bearing in 
>> the layshaft assembly.
>> Before I do the parts search / purchases, I thought I'd check to see 
>> if there's a longevity improvement that can be made there.
>>>
>>> It's been a while since the box was apart, and let me tell you - 
>>> with a
>> buggered up layshaft shaft the disassembly is challenging.
>>>
>>> I'll be replacing, input shaft, layshaft and 3rd gear at least.  
>>> Also had a
>> weird failure where one of the pins that the spring slides onto in 
>> the overdrive is broken off - may have been an assembly issue.
>>>
>>> I may have most of the parts needed for the rebuild, we'll see what 
>>> uncle
>> jack's tranny parts stash includes.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Tony Drews
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