It's been said that the carbon footprint of building/buying a new car is
about equal to driving it the average 7 years. Soooo-stop waste
"Recycle old race cars"
John Hagen
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Doug Mitchell wrote:
> It has been said that an F150 is more green cradle to grave than a
> Prius when you include battery disposal.
>
> Full disclosure, I just took delivery of a hybrid, but it shares the
> garage with a F150. The Triumphs reside in a separate garage.
>
> When you think about it, our Triumphs are, at this time, more 'green'
> than any electric or hybrid vehicle.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Doug
> --
> Doug Mitchell
> dmitchel@sbcglobal.net
>
> Tylerpthompson@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> You are correct. It takes coal fired power plants, gas fire power
>> plants,
>> hydro, solar and wind to power these batteries! Then they end up in
>> a
>> landfill as it doesn't pay to recycle them. But they are "green"
>> vehicles and
>> oh so manly. I am waiting for a hydrogen vehicle. Zero emissions and
>> power....maybe not in my lifetime but.
>>
>> I almost got hit walking in a parking lot a few months back. The guy
>> was
>> backing up in his Prius and since it makes no noise, he just about
>> clipped me.
>> Had I not heard the sand under the tires, and yelled, well.....
>>
>> Ty
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>> (Please excuse any errors or typos)
>>
>> On Apr 1, 2013, at 12:07 PM, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> ---- RACER BUD <budscars@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> What happens to The electric cars when the batteries are no good
>>>> anymore..?..and what does it cost to replace tham..or..what becomes
>>>> of the
>>>> car?
>>>
>>> They're kind of expensive to replace; buddy of mine said the battery
>>> for his
>> 1st gen Prius was $7k but he convinced Toyota to cover half (which I
>> suspect
>> means the wholesale price is closer to $3.5k). (Yes, I realize a
>> Prius has a
>> relatively small battery, it's just a data point).
>>>
>>> When the car isn't worth the price of a new or rebuilt battery, it
>>> gets
>> scrapped just like any other car that isn't worth repairing.
>>>
>>> At the moment, AFAIK the nearest Li-ion battery recycling facility
>>> is in
>> Canada. Toxco was supposed to open a new plant in Ohio last year,
>> but it
>> doesn't seem to have happened yet. At the moment, lithium is so
>> cheap that it
>> doesn't pay to recycle it; but likely that will change if electric
>> cars gain
>> more acceptance.
>>>
>>> Personally, I don't see full electric as ever replacing internal
>>> combustion.
>> There is certainly a niche market for them, short distance commuting
>> and so
>> on. But the advantages aren't nearly as great as some folks like to
>> claim.
>> They aren't anywhere close to "zero pollution"; its just that most of
>> the
>> pollution comes out somewhere else. NFI, YMMV, etc.
>>>
>>> Randall
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