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To: <BillDentin@aol.com>, <jsnook@wcnet.org>, <kaskas@cox.net>,
Subject: Re: [Fot] CAR RACING & DEATH
From: "Gary Horstkorta" <vintage.racer@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:34:48 -0700
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Bill:

 

I concur.  One of the best races I've had was with a good friend of mine, he
in his Alfa GTV and me in my TR4.  We raced for a whole session, as fast as
we could , nose-to-tail, side-by-side, swapping positions but we did so
respecting each other's space, no unsafe maneuvers, just good, clean racing.
Of course it helps to know who you're racing with, it makes a world of
difference when you have confidence the drivers around you won't try any
unsafe moves.  One of the practices our club preaches is "get to know the
other drivers in your group".  The club also puts a letter G for Guest or X
for Rookie on the rear of a car which helps experienced drivers ID new cars
out on the track.   10/10ths racing can be fun and safe.if you race with
your head and not your foot.

 

Gary  

 

From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of BillDentin@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:13 PM
To: jsnook@wcnet.org; kaskas@cox.net; Gt6steve@aol.com;
budscars@comcast.net; Billb@bnj.com; standardtriumph@btinternet.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] CAR RACING & DEATH

 

In a message dated 09/25/2008 3:11:12 PM Central Daylight Time,
jsnook@wcnet.org writes:





I resemble that remark!!

Jeff Snook





Snook!  Snooker!  That's funny.

I don't think it hurts at all for racers (all of them) to consider how and
why they're racing, and the fact that death (or worse) is a possibility.  I
think it is wise to consider it and foolish to ignore it.

I just returned from two days in Sterling, Illinois at Doctor Surjit
Hermon's wake and funeral.  Less than a month after spending two days in
Geneseo, Illinois at Jack Drew's wake and funeral.  And the two little
Illinois towns are less than 50 miles apart.  It's hard for me not to spend
some time thinking about death and racing.  

On the bright side, as sad as these wakes and funeral services were, at no
time did I sense any ill feelings towards vintage racing.  In each case, the
families, both of whom were crushed with the loss, seemed to understand the
racer died doing something they loved to do.  I guess that's good, and like
sugar, helps get the medicine to go down.

These discussions we have that use rulers like 8/10ths to describe 'safe
vintage racing' are pretty academic.  After all, 8/10th is just a number,
often used in Vintage Drivers' Meetings to describe racing safely and not on
or over the edge.  There are vintage racers I race with who race at 9/10ths
and even 10/10ths, and they do so safely.  They are a joy to behold, and I
have a super seat to see it.  I love it.  But I am also aware of some
vintage racers who race at 10/10ths and even 11/10ths, who do not do it
safely.  I don't think they belong in vintage racing.

Because last pays the same as first.  Because these are old and often tired
cars.  Because we are called upon to make split second decisions, and get
them right the first time...it just seems to me like saving a 1/10th or so
will add a safety cushion to the mix.

Bill Dentinger
  
  


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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I
concur.&nbsp; One of the best races I&#8217;ve had was with a good =
friend of
mine, he in his Alfa GTV and me in my TR4.&nbsp; We raced for a whole =
session,
as fast as we could , nose-to-tail, side-by-side, swapping positions but =
we did
so respecting each other&#8217;s space, no unsafe maneuvers, just good, =
clean
racing.&nbsp; Of course it helps to know who you&#8217;re racing with, =
it makes
a world of difference when you have confidence the drivers around you =
won&#8217;t
try any unsafe moves.&nbsp; One of the practices our club preaches is =
&#8220;get
to know the other drivers in your group&#8221;.&nbsp; The club also puts =
a
letter G for Guest or X for Rookie on the rear of a car which helps =
experienced
drivers ID new cars out on the track. &nbsp;&nbsp;10/10ths racing can be =
fun
and safe&#8230;if you race with your head and not your =
foot.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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fot-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>BillDentin@aol.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> jsnook@wcnet.org; kaskas@cox.net; Gt6steve@aol.com;
budscars@comcast.net; Billb@bnj.com; standardtriumph@btinternet.com<br>
<b>Cc:</b> fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] CAR RACING &amp; DEATH<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Baskerville Old =
Face","serif";
color:#400040'>In a message dated 09/25/2008 3:11:12 PM Central Daylight =
Time,
jsnook@wcnet.org writes:<br>
<br>
</span><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
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<br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:navy;background:white'>I resemble that remark!!</span><span
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black;background:white'>=
<br>
<br>
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black;background:white'>Jeff Snook<br>
<br>
</span><span =
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white'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Baskerville Old =
Face","serif";color:#400040;
background:white'><br>
Snook!&nbsp; Snooker!&nbsp; That's funny.<br>
<br>
I don't think it hurts at all for racers (all of them) to consider how =
and why
they're racing, and the fact that death (or worse) is a =
possibility.&nbsp; I
think it is wise to consider it and foolish to ignore it.<br>
<br>
I just returned from two days in Sterling, Illinois at Doctor Surjit =
Hermon's
wake and funeral.&nbsp; Less than a month after spending two days in =
Geneseo,
Illinois at Jack Drew's wake and funeral.&nbsp; And the two little =
Illinois
towns are less than 50 miles apart.&nbsp; It's hard for me not to spend =
some
time thinking about death and racing.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
On the bright side, as sad as these wakes and funeral services were, at =
no time
did I sense any ill feelings towards vintage racing.&nbsp; In each case, =
the
families, both of whom were crushed with the loss, seemed to understand =
the
racer died doing something they loved to do.&nbsp; I guess that's good, =
and
like sugar, helps get the medicine to go down.<br>
<br>
These discussions we have that use rulers like 8/10ths to describe 'safe
vintage racing' are pretty academic.&nbsp; After all, 8/10th is just a =
number,
often used in Vintage Drivers' Meetings to describe racing safely and =
not on or
over the edge.&nbsp; There are vintage racers I race with who race at =
9/10ths
and even 10/10ths, and they do so safely.&nbsp; They are a joy to =
behold, and I
have a super seat to see it.&nbsp; I love it.&nbsp; But I am also aware =
of some
vintage racers who race at 10/10ths and even 11/10ths, who do not do it
safely.&nbsp; I don't think they belong in vintage racing.<br>
<br>
Because last pays the same as first.&nbsp; Because these are old and =
often
tired cars.&nbsp; Because we are called upon to make split second =
decisions,
and get them right the first time...it just seems to me like saving a =
1/10th or
so will add a safety cushion to the mix.<br>
<br>
Bill Dentinger<br>
&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp; </span><span style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br>
<br>
<br>
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WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators.<br>
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