Thanks for the apology. I guess I got a little over emotional and should
have taken the humorous side of your original comments. Yes, there are
certainly overbearing numbskulls out there that shouldn't be cops. But the
profession has come along way in the last 20 years, ie., education,
training, screening........but it is a tough, and at times, a very scary
job.
Bob Davis
Mt. Dora, FL
62TR4racer
67.5 Datsun2000
69 Zink FV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>
To: "'Bob Davis '" <rdavis4@cfl.rr.com>; "'Susan and Jack Brooks '"
<tr3a@att.net>; <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: Sort of an LBC question... but not exactly.... (long answer)
> I understand your irritation and I'm sorry I offended you. But let me ask
> you something Bob, did I say anything that wasn't true?
>
> I don't think any of us fails to understand that what we are talking about
> is getting away with doing something wrong. I protest no innocence, I
simply
> want to get away with being the irresponsible, immature guy that I am. I
> drive for fun, every day, even when I'm commuting. That doesn't mean I'm
> always speeding, but I'm never treating it with absolute social
> responsibility. And I have no intention of ever being that responsible. I
> don't call them toys without reason.
>
> You know, way better than I do, that the justice system is more about
> municipal convenience than justice. And I know, way better than you do,
> where my heart is as far as anyone who does his job, serves his country,
and
> tries to help. It's simply not what I was writing about.
>
> Bill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Davis
> To: Bill Babcock; Susan and Jack Brooks; fot@autox.team.net
> Sent: 3/13/2004 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Sort of an LBC question... but not exactly.... (long answer)
>
> I find your comments highly offensive as I am a retired law enforcement
> officer that put his life on the line on more occasions than I care to
> remember, stopped burglaries in progress, administered life saving
> procedures, assisted elderly folks get to and from the grocery store and
> on
> and on and on!
>
> I can't tell you how many times I issued traffic tickets to people who
> got
> their panties in a wad because they "got caught" breaking the law,
> threatened to show up in court and smear me all over the place and then
> never show because they realized they were really in the wrong. Yes, the
> police profession does have it's individuals that may not be stand up
> guys
> or gals, but to lump us all into that category is "WRONG". Think about
> everything you guys are thinking or saying and remember that the next
> time
> you are in an accident bleeding profusely and the first guy on the scene
> is
> a cop who saves your life.
>
> Bob Davis
> Mt. Dora, FL
> 1962 TR4racer
> 67.5 Datsun2000racer
> 69 Zink FV
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>
> To: "Susan and Jack Brooks" <tr3a@att.net>; <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 9:03 AM
> Subject: RE: Sort of an LBC question... but not exactly.... (long
> answer)
>
>
> > In reading all of these I'm reminded of a few facts about cops: They
> belong
> > to a club, they're not the brightest people on the planet, they have
> some
> > power, and they envy your toys. The potential for corruption or some
> form
> of
> > municipal backsliding that has the same effect is always a
> possibility:
> > That's why they call it corruption. Like my friend Barney says "I
> don't
> want
> > their jobs, but I also don't want mean, vicious, petty assholes
> wanting
> > their jobs".
> >
> > I really love Uncle Jack's approach--it disarms them on several
> levels. As
> > members of a club, they respect their elders--people move up in the
> club
> on
> > seniority, the top guys have gray hair (and yes, it's all guys at the
> top).
> > They might envy our toys, but at least its not some dope-dealing
> college
> kid
> > driving it, we're old enough to have earned them. And no cop in his
> right
> > mind tries the same stuff with an older guy that he might try with a
> kid
> or
> > a peer.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On
> Behalf
> > Of Susan and Jack Brooks
> > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:24 AM
> > To: fot@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: Sort of an LBC question... but not exactly.... (long
> answer)
> >
> > I remember the speeding scam we always hit between NC and Myrtle
> Beach,
> each
> > spring after school let out. The local cops would pull the college
> students
> > over for speeding and want $100 plus fine. We were all wise to the
> scam
> and
> > only had $5-10 each, in our pockets, the rest of the money was
> elsewhere.
> > After some banter, the cop would invariably accept $20-40 as a fine,
> but
> > never seemed to provide a receipt - which we never asked for either.
> >
> > Jack
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