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Re: New Roadster from Nissan

To: snyler <marc@animalfirm.com>,
Subject: Re: New Roadster from Nissan
From: The Dread Pirate Roberts <svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:54:05 -0800
snyler wrote:

>
> Cut a hole in the box-top without disturbing the side rails of the top
> and you have a roadster-box, Pretty rigid, but still open ;-)
> >
>

No, you don't - you have a coupe w/a sunroof, and if you cut a big enough hole, 
it's going
to be a Flexi-Flyer.

>
> A roadster is a 2 seat, open-topped car designed as an open-topped car.
> Not a coupe with the top cut of and *retrofitted* with extra stiffening.
> The Miata is a roadster,  a convertible Z is a convertible.   The Miata
> is a unibody car designed to be open, so no *extra* stiffening is used
> (i.e. put in after initial manufacture).  The difference, admittedly, is
> mainly semantic, but there you go.

> And to the second question, yes. I'd prefer a small, 2 seat, 4 cyl
> purpose built roadster, taking design cues from our beloved little cars (
> Without botching it, preferably)  It should have the spirit of the
> roadster, Not a prop from "Logan's Run"
>
> -marc.
>

It all depends upon the design approach taken, and whether or not the decision 
to build a
convertible version of a car is made early on, or if the marketing pukes decide 
later,
after the chassis design is fixed, that they could grab some additional market 
share w/a
topless version of the car. The new Corvette is a good example of doing it 
right - the
hardtop and convertible chassis were developed at the same time, so the 
"roadster" version
has stiffening built-in to the chassis which the hardtop doesn't require - and 
it's
heavier because of it.

Working with your personal definitions of "roadster" and "convertible", there's 
no reason
to assume that the topless version of the new Z won't be a "roadster" - with a 
chassis
designed from the ground up to retain a reasonable level of torsional rigidity 
in the
absence of the reinforcing effect of a rigid roof. Of course, it'll still be 
ugly ;^)

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