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To: lotusf1@idt.net
Subject: Re: Lotus Lists
From: RB <rodbean@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:54:57 -0700
Ron,

Thank you.  That's the most I've said for quite a while.  I wish I had more 
time.

Got my valve shims today and will finish up the Elan head tomorrow and then
install it.  On the road soon.

Rod



lotusf1@idt.net wrote:

> Rod,
>
> Great thoughts!  Exactly mine!
>
> Long live the open minds,
>
> Ron
>
> RB wrote:
>
> > Good for Alan.  He's got a point.  observers would be likely to get a
> > negative impression.
> >
> > The real problem IMO, and this is the difficulty with almost any discussion
> > on the lotus-cars list, is that twenty years ago, Lotus people all had a lot
> > in common with respect to their automotive ideals.  Now, because cars
> > carrying Lotus badges are so diverse, so are the enthusiasts.  We can no
> > longer count on our little inside jokes about Lotus cars, British cars, UK
> > cottage industry quirks, etc. being universally understood or appreciated
> > among this broad group of Lotus enthusiasts.  Many of those Esprit people
> > take the "luxury" aspect of their cars verrrry seriously.  The idea of there
> > being a close family relationship to kit cars (a dirty word) sends some of
> > them into uncontrollable shivers (remember Tony?).
> >
> > And that's before "fwd" and "Lotus" find themselves in the same sentence.
> > That is the double booster rocket that really fragments Lotus enthusiasts.
> >
> > On the other hand, camaraderie with people who like Chapman era Lotuses,
> > Ginettas, TVRs, Elvas, ..even Morgans, is delightful because we seem to have
> > many basic interests in common.
> >
> > That's why I like the lotus-elan, Elite and chapman-era lists.  If I still
> > had a Europa, I'd also lurk on that list too.  The more specific lists, I
> > believe, are where the original Lotus enthusiasts have gone.
> >
> > Rod
> >
> > Elton Clark wrote:
> >
> > > This forwarded from the Lotus List:   It's more nearly a strong suggestion
> > > from Alan that the M100 debate be ended on the list. . .  I can live with
> > > that!
> > > :->
> > > Tony_______________________@Sherman.Texas
> > >
> > > From: Alan Perry <esprit@best.com>
> > > webmaster
> > > To: <lotus-cars@lists.best.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 6:35 PM
> > > Subject: Administrivia: Highly spirited discussion
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I really don't like to do this, because I think this list should be
> > > > self-policing, however ...
> > > >
> > > > Could the people discussing the pluses and minuses of the M100 Elan
> > > > please redirect your energies into something more constructive?  I
> > > > think the discussion has reached the point of being a religious
> > > > issue with no one likely to be converted.
> > > >
> > > > I will presume that you guys are just trying to get a response from
> > > > each other, but some folks may take it more seriously.  So, let's
> > > > just agree to disagree and move on to some things that could use
> > > > some discussion ...
> > > >
> > > > Like why Lotus Cars seems so incapable of making any kind of decision
> > > > (and then sticking to it) with regards to the US market.
> > > >
> > > > alan perry
> > > > your mailing list slave


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