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To: "John T. Blair" <jblair@exis.net>, <Bricklin@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: hi
From: "Phil" <delorean@usfamily.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 11:18:17 -0500
Let me answer your question of being able to afford a Bricklin.  I am mostly
in love with the "D" (DeLorean DMC-12). I, when I an 16 will probably get a
junker for minimum coverage on insurance, and have the DeLorean be a
"classic" which means I can only drive it 5/7 times a week, at least in
Minnesota.  But insurance on a "second car or classic is cheap."  I
recommend you to call your insurance agent and ask them about having 2 cars,
a junker and a classic.  Visit me at http://www.deloreans.com and at
http://www.deloreans.com/cars.html and tell me which your favorite cars are.

-Phil
philf@ssesco.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "John T. Blair" <jblair@exis.net>
To: <Bricklin@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: hi


> At 02:16 AM 10/10/99 EDT, Casey Simpler wrote:
> >Hi, my name is Casey Simpler, I am 16 years old, and live in Longview
Texas,
> >and just saw a Bricklin for the first time.  I love these cars, and I
want
> to
> >purchase one.
>
> Casey,
>
> Glad to see a young man interested in these cars!!!!  We need young blood
> in the club and coming into the car hobby.
>
> >1.  Are Bricklins somewhat reliable?  This will be my only car and I need
> >something that will not break down very often.
>
> They are as reliable as any other used car, and a reliable as YOU make it.
> Keep in mind when you buy a used car, you are buying someone elses
problems.
> This means a couple of things:
> 1. You will need a mechanic that you can trust.  To find the best mechainc
>    in your area look in a mirror!  You are the only one that cares!  If
you
>    don't have any tools, or any mech. knowledge now is the time to start
>    learining.
> 2. If you do your own work, you can look at doing a job right since all
you
>    are paying for is parts.  In other words, if you are going to put a new
>    caliper on the right front wheel, get 2 and do both wheels,  If you
need
>    to change the dist. cap, replace the cap, button and plug wires, etc.
>    This will help make the car MORE reilable.  If you only do the min.
> required
>    to fix the initial problem, it will surface in a short time do to
failure
>    of another part in the same system.
> 3. If you don't do your own work, expect to spend about $500 everytime you
>    take it to the shop.  If you only have to have the car worked on a
couple
>    of times a year, it is cheaper then payments on a new car.
>
> >2. Why is the mileage so low on all of the cars for sale in Classifieds?
>
>     A lot of people purchase them, and then for one reason or another had
> problems with the car and parked them.  Some people were speculating,
hoping
> the car's value would skyrocket.  But NOT all Bricklins have low milage.
> In many cases a low milage car can be worse than a high milage car.  A
high
> milage car has been driven and many of the problems worked out.  The low
> milage car was parked because of a problem and that problem still exists.
>
> >3. How many miles should I try to find one with?  I am very concerned
with
> >the price(under $6k-$7k).
>
>     The price you pay will depend on several things, NOT just the milage:
> over all condition, repaires needed.  If the car does NOT have air doors,
> deduct $1500 to do the conversion.  You can get a driver in your price
> range.  The next question is how long do you want to keep it?  You may
> drive it for several years, then have to restore the car, or start by
> restoring the car and then driving it.  I would suggest that you drive the
> car for at least 1 year if you can.  You will need the memories to help
> you over the rough spots during the restoration.  I've never driven mine,
> and I've owned it since 88, been restoring it since 95.
>
> >4.  What kind of mileage do they get?  I will be driving around town
alot.
> >And will probably be putting quite a few miles on it.
>
> Approx. 18 mpg.  If you truely want a driver, you can increase this some
by
> putting in a hotter cam, a better carb, a new rear end, and or and AOD
> transmission.
>
>
> >5. Would you recommend a Bricklin as a good daily driver?
>
> I hope so!  I'm planning that for mine.  For a young fellow like yourself,
> you can figure that you will be in a couple of accidents as your driving
> skill are honed.  The Brick. is a VERY safe car.  You can't ask for much
> more in safety.  The area you are going to have problems is getting
insurance.
>
>
> >6. What are the insurance rates on them?  I will be paying the insurance,
> and
> >I will definately want full coverage.
>
> It will be pretty expensive because of your age.  My guess based on my #1
son
> is about $1500 or so a year!  Not trying to discourage you, but you might
want
> to think about only driving your parents car and be on their policy for a
> couple of years.  This will reduce the cost.  But if you have 3 drivers
and
> 3 cars, then one of the cars will be "assigned" to as a full time driver
and
> your rates will go through the roof.  When my son started driving, my
rates
> went for $450 a year for my wife and I on 2 cars to over $900 a year for
my
> son to "occasionally" drive either of our cars.  Good grades is a real
plus.
> If you are an honor student you usually get a nice discount.  For my son
> it was $125 a year!  After 2 years, you are supposed to get a small break
> based on your driving record.
>
> As to "full coverage" this is a missnomer, if you are hit (say only
requiring
>  a new fender - $400ish) the insurance co. is going to want to total the
> car.
> Currently it is very difficult to get insurance of an older car for what
it
> is
> worth.  Insurance companies have what they call "Actual Cash Value"
> policies.
> This means they don't care what you have in the car,  they go by the worth
in
> the Blue Book.  Unfortunately, the Bricklin probably hasn't been listed
since
> 77 and the ins. co. will tell you that ANY car that is 25 years old isn't
> worth
> more than $200!  I've published an article about insurance companies in
the
> last Brickline (quarterly magazine for the club - Bricklin International -
> which I suggest you join).  I'm hoping to do at least one more.  I'm also
in
> the process of trying to find insurance for my car.  When it is on the
> road, I
> will have about $15,000 in parts for the restoration, and 1500 hours
> working on
> it.  I will value the car around $16,000.
>
> >7.  Is there anything else I should know about them?
>
> Read the FAQ on the web page.  Try to find someone in your area with one.
> Where do you live?  I might be able to help you find one in your area.  As
> pointed questions as you can think of them.  General questions like those
> here are hard to answer as they cover a lot of ground.  For long
conversations
> about things, call someone that owns one.  You can get more info quicker
on
> the phone than here on the net.
>
> Hope this has helped Casey.  Don't give up the dream.  You can get one, it
> can be made reliable.  If you do the work, you'll learn a lot, generate
some
> skills and have fun and meet some nice people.
>
> John
>
> John T. Blair  WA4OHZ          email:  jblair@exis.net
> Va. Beach, Va                  Phone:  (757) 495-8229
>
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> 71 Saab Sonett III (71500840)    75 Bricklin SV1 (0887)    77 Spitfire
>
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