At 10:11 PM 8/2/98 PDT, K M wrote:
>
>The seatbelt bolts are a mystery -- it just doesn't add up. The bolt is
>a 1/2 in (3/4 inch head) and, unless there were nuts on the outside
>behind the valance that somehow didn't spin while I was undoing the
>bolts but then fell off somewhere without a sound, then this may be an
>issue for other cars. I ended up buying two more bolts and a couple of
>nylock nuts -- I want to be able to rely on the seatbelts, if nothing
>else.
>
Kim, you were pretty lucky, being able to get the bolts out! The bolt
goes through the seat belt end, then through a steel reinforcement plate
on the inside of the car (under the carpet). It then goes through the
fiberglass floor panel, through a steel reinforcement plate on the out
side of the floor pan (behind the valance) and to a nut that is welded
to the outter steel plate.
On 887, the bolts were rusted to each piece of metal - I didn't know it
at the time. I went out and purchased the Torx socket. Came home put
it in my air wrench and tried to remove the bolt. Within 10 seconds, I
broke the Torx socket. Went back and got another one. This time I put
it on my 1/2" breaker bar. I couldn't budge the bolt. So I put a 6'
piece of pipe on the end of the breaker bar. Snapped the 2nd Torx socket.
I finally had to cut the nuts off using a 1/4" die grinder with a cutting
wheel and a 4" grinder. I took several hours to cut off all 4 bolts!
>Is there a good or approved way to get the door latches to work? All of
>a sudden my passenger door, although the solenoid is releasing the latch
>and the cylinder is pushing the door, still hangs up. Also, it doesn't
>close and nestle as well as it did last week. Is this just a "guess at
>it" sort of thing or is there a technique? Thanks, Kim.
>
I take it you are talking about the electric solenoids not pulling the
latch open. Here are some excerpts of the various discussions that
have gone on about this subject.
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George "S.G.Schiro" <gschiro@qsky.com> wrote:
> One of the door solenoids siezed up due to corrosion. I was able to
> dismantle it, clean out the solenoid bore and re-assemble the end
> cap with a little epoxy. Seems to be working ok.
I've been told that they are nolonger available. However, someone
else told me that they looked like door lock solenoids for a Lincoln
or something and that JC Whitney had a generic replacement. Terry
Tanner has designed and made a pneumatic replacement for them, but
the are pretty expensive ($100 ea). However, they develop a lot more
pull than the electric ones so you can close the door tighter.
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At 08:58 AM 3/6/98 +0000, "Pete Freeland" <pete@fltdyn.com> wrote:
>I am in the process of cleaning up and doing routine maintenance on
>my white '75 (VIN 2790) and the driver's side door lock solenoid
>isn't working. I have a couple of questions:
>
>1. Is it possible to repair this or is there some maintenance that
>should be done on these to help preserve them?
I would try squarting some WD-40 around the plunger and the door latch
mechanism and then try working it by hand. To see if it is really the
plunger and not the latch, disconnect the plunger from the rod that goes
to the latch mech. Now try the door open switch. If the plunger moves,
the problem is probably that the mech. is gummed up. Clean it down
with WD-40. Lubing it with either WD-40 or silicon spray show help.
If that doesn't work, then you probably need a new solenoid. But before
jumping at that, I'd try to see if the solenoid is good. You will need
a multimeter. Disconnect the battery before making this measurement. Set
it to the 1x Ohms setting. Take one lead and touch the terminal that the
wiring attaches to, touch the other lead to the case. If the wire inside
the solenoid is good the meter should deflect to almost 0 ohms.
Make sure the contact is clean and shiny and that the section of the case
that you are touching the lead to is also clean and shiny. If the meter
deflects, then the solenoid is probably good; and the problem is most
likey a bad ground. Make sure that the tab and the area on the door frame
is clean and shiny. To clean the tab, connector and door frame use some
sandpaper. The grit is not important, anything will do, preferably about
100 grit.
Reinstall the solenoid, reconnect the battery and try the door opening
switch again. Does it work now? If not, remove the solenoid and get
a couple of aligator clips (available at Radio Shack for about $5 a
package - Note you want the larger ones).
WARNING - WARNING - WARNING - WARNING -
1. This can be dangerious to you electrical system!!!! If you
don't know much about electricity DON'T attempt this. Find
someone to help you!!!!
2. DO NOT set the solenoid on the car. Consider all metal on the car
as a ground. (See electrical primer article on Web page.)
3. Be very careful with the lead that is connected to the Positive
side of the battery. DO NOT let it touch ANY metal part of the
car including the body! It will cause a short circuit and could
damage you electrical system or your paint job.
Go to another car that has a battery that is accessable. Connect one
aligator clip to the electrical contact on the solenoid and the other
end of the clip to the positive side of the battery. Connect a 2nd
aligator clip to the negative side of the battery and bursh the free
end of this clip against the side of the solenoid. If the solenoid
fires, the solenoid is good and you have too much resistance in one of
the connections in the wiring or a bad switch.
>
>2. If the unit can't be fixed, is there an immediate cross-reference
>for this part? I would be surprised if this is a unique
>Bricklin-only part.
According to Terry Tanner, this part is nolonger available. He has
developed an air driven solenoid that works off of the air supply for
the air doors. There is an advantage to this in that these new solenoids
can pull a lot harder than the older electrical ones. Consiquently, you
can adjust the doors for a better/tighter fit and the solenoid can still
pull the latch open. The down side is the are expensive, about $100
each I think.
However, the electric solenoids are basically the solenoids used on
electric door locks. So you can try almost any door lock solenoid from
numerious cars, like a Lincoln or even a 79 Plymouth Mini Van. Also
J.C. Whitney has some electic door solenoids. The only problem might
be making a mounting bracked to adapt a "non stock" solenoid.
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Kim hope this answers your question
John
John
John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair@exis.net
Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229
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