Well there are a couple ways to do it. If we decide on 2 laps, we could use
several different formats. There is the two consecutive flying laps method,
in Time Trail mode. Or there is the two first laps format, even though the
first lap is a semi-flying lap. Or we could make it a little more
interesting and use an arcade disc Race. A little traffic never hurt nobody
(in this game anyway!). ;) That would include a standing start and having
to work your way to the front. We could set it to any difficulty level
depending on what people want.
As for the lap limit, there are many ways to do this too. I've been in
races where there was a run limit - in fact I "invented" this rule way back
in the day ;). Say, six runs only, and if you spin out tough cookies. Or
there is the time limit, where once you have the car tuned to your liking,
you can run for 60 minutes and take your best results.
Of course, there should always be rules regarding off-course excursions,
shortcuts, and wall-riding. I don't think we have much to worry about in
this group, but I thought I'd mention it so we have everything clear. :)
The most common rule I came accross was, always keep at least one wheel
completely on the pavement (or curb) and stay off the walls.
Gotta run! Have a GPL online race about to start. =)
Bryan Heitkotter
'87 MR2 , http://move.to/theMR2
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Thana, Peter {High~Palo Alto}" <PETER.THANA@Roche.COM>
To: "'Bryan Heitkotter'" <Bryan64@earthlink.net>; "Allendorfer, Peter"
<Peter@regionofdoom.com>; <jesvilla@gte.net>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: Driving Simulators
> Yes, you are right. When you enter time trial mode, you don't get the
> opportunity to change setup, but after you quit out of the session, the
> settings menu comes up in the same screen as "Try Again". The thing you
> can't do in the arcade disc is buy parts or cars.
>
> Since not too many people have the Cerbera LM and it's an optional prize
car
> (though one worth having I must say), let's try something else. Viper
GTS-R
> Team Oreca (can be purchased), Seattle Circuit.
>
> Now, when you say 2 laps, do you mean the first 2 laps (out lap + next
lap),
> any two laps, or any two consecutive laps? Forgive me, I have never been
in
> a league and don't know the protocol. And what lap limit? I'd prefer
> unlimited, since after a while I get tired and frustrated anyway. But
I'll
> tell you what. Since I'm suggesting the car and track, you can make the
> rules:)
>
> Ooh, this sounds like fun:)
>
> Peter
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bryan Heitkotter [SMTP:Bryan64@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:56 PM
> > To: Allendorfer, Peter; jesvilla@gte.net; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Driving Simulators
> >
> > It's been a while since I've played, but I'm pretty sure once you have
the
> > car and all the parts on it, you can put in the Arcade disc and leave it
> > there for the remainder of time-trialing and setup-fiddling. Am I
right?
> >
> > GT1 has even more arcade-like physics. Every car has beyond-Porsche
> > braking
> > ability. ;)
> >
> > And there are so few cars in GT1 ("only" 150!).
> >
> > Bryan Heitkotter
> > '87 MR2 , http://move.to/theMR2
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> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Allendorfer, Peter" <Peter@regionofdoom.com>
> > To: "'Bryan Heitkotter '" <Bryan64@earthlink.net>; <jesvilla@gte.net>;
> > <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:11 PM
> > Subject: RE: Driving Simulators
> >
> >
> > > The problem that I have found with GT2 over the origional, is you have
> > to
> > > swap CD's in order to change the settings on your car, if you are
using
> > disc
> > > 2 in order to do the challenge laps. Lets go really old school, and
go
> > back
> > > to GT in order to do the competition.
> > >
> > > -Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bryan Heitkotter
> > > To: jesvilla@gte.net; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > Sent: 12/1/00 11:00 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Driving Simulators
> > >
> > > Well I'm officially 'retired' from GT2 competition, but I suppose I
> > > could
> > > break out the PSX again and give this a shot [haven't played in
months,
> > > I
> > > probably suck by now, but I'll kick your collective butts anyway ;) ].
> > > I
> > > suggest a limited runs rule, to avoid frustration and having the
winner
> > > be
> > > determined by who has the most free time. :)
> > >
> > > So is it Rome Night in the Cerbera LM? Gonna have to buy me one of
> > > those...
> > > 2 laps?
> > >
> > > Bryan Heitkotter
> > > '87 MR2 , http://move.to/theMR2
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> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jesus Villarreal" <jesvilla@gte.net>
> > > To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 5:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Driving Simulators
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thana, Peter {High~Palo Alto} wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -The dynamics in GT2 are not completely realistic. High speed
> > > stability
> > > is greatly exaggerated. -On a real car, you don't have the >entire
range
> > > of
> > > steering lock within less than 1 inch of wheel travel
> > > >
> > > > Isn't there some kind of setting where you can change that?? I
thought
> > > > that when you set it up you could make the steering slower or
quicker,
> > > > depending on how you wanted it.
> > > >
> > > > > Anyone up for a little GT2 Challenge? Come on, you know you can
> > > beat
> > > 1:14.9
> > > > > at Rome Night in a Cerbera LM:)
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure Andy McK., or Brian H. will answer that challenge in due
> > > time.
> > > > I've been practicing with a pseudo CP SVT-Mustang at Seattle's long
> > > > course, 1:26.460, best time so far, I'm getting my clock cleaned by
my
> > > > kid, he's at 1:25.0xx, same car/same settings. OK, on to Rome/night
> > > with
> > > > the Cerbera LM.
> > > >
> > > > Jesus
> > > > P.S. these simulators do help in teaching you what lines to take,
the
> > > > smoother you take the turns, the faster you will go, simulated or
> > > real.
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